It seems really unlikely that any of them seriously believed impeachment proceedings could happen from this, even if every Democrat in the House voted yes. They knew it was going to fail from the start so it seems like the intent of it was to make a statement.
I’ll go a bit further and say this particular hill is not the best one to choose, as presidents have long unilaterally launched military operations and it’s been broadly declared legal, even if it makes no sense. Changing the law would be good, but as the law stands, it’s a hard argument to make that Trump should be impeached because of his unilateral decision to strike Iran but every other president in recent history shouldn’t have been impeached over their unilateral strikes.
Need to select some way in which he has behaved illegally, in a way that looks corrupt, and in a way that is different than other presidents that have been given free passes. He seems to give such circumstances pretty routinely, so I don’t know why you’d go for this one.
that is exactly why the Dems had nothing to lose. you are not winning over MAGA folks. who cares? they are not the group a symbolic appeal of impeachment would work for. the Dems should’ve taken the risk to demonstrate solidarity but they can’t be fucked to do anything even remotely suggestive they are working for their constituents.
Unpopular opinion here; but there’s no way an impeachment would succeed and a failed impeachment strengthens Trump’s position with his base.
It seems really unlikely that any of them seriously believed impeachment proceedings could happen from this, even if every Democrat in the House voted yes. They knew it was going to fail from the start so it seems like the intent of it was to make a statement.
Everything Trump does strengthen his position with his base.
He could probably eat dog poo on live television and his base would cheer him for a dumb reason.
"The liberals forced him into a choice to eat dog poo. Their fault. " -all maga logic at this point as they also start to eat dog poo.
Not a bad outcome.
I’ll go a bit further and say this particular hill is not the best one to choose, as presidents have long unilaterally launched military operations and it’s been broadly declared legal, even if it makes no sense. Changing the law would be good, but as the law stands, it’s a hard argument to make that Trump should be impeached because of his unilateral decision to strike Iran but every other president in recent history shouldn’t have been impeached over their unilateral strikes.
Need to select some way in which he has behaved illegally, in a way that looks corrupt, and in a way that is different than other presidents that have been given free passes. He seems to give such circumstances pretty routinely, so I don’t know why you’d go for this one.
that is exactly why the Dems had nothing to lose. you are not winning over MAGA folks. who cares? they are not the group a symbolic appeal of impeachment would work for. the Dems should’ve taken the risk to demonstrate solidarity but they can’t be fucked to do anything even remotely suggestive they are working for their constituents.