• delgato@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    I endorse nuclear power and am enjoying the second look it is getting now but as a geologist I ask where the nuclear waste will go. No one ever wants to talk about it and there is really easy solution, the deep subsurface (miles below the ground). It’s safe, cheap, and Finland has shown how it’s done.

    This is part of a broader issue in preparing our next generations for jobs of the future. To build out this infrastructure you need smart technical people to make it work and ask the tough questions, but I know this administration doesn’t care about that.

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      3 days ago

      The solutions exist and the USA has been aware of those solutions since they invented nuclear power in the 50’s. Unfortunately Capitalism doesn’t allow long-term planning so almost every time a long-term storage solution has been proposed, or ever funded, a few elections later it get’s defunded to the praised of misguided environmentalists and the green-washing fossil fuel lobby.

      The one I know about the most was Yucca Mountain which got defunded. But at least WiPP is back open. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_Isolation_Pilot_Plant

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        Yea Yucca mountain is a sad tale. A lack of community engagement and politics ruined what was other wise a geotechnically sound design. Having a national repository for a nation as large as the US might be impractical in retrospect especially involving interstate rail transport. I think local containment of waste is key to reduce shipping costs and trailing the waste through developed areas. That requires planning a nuclear site near a geological repository which might not be part of design plans.

        Also that NM repository I haven’t heard of, will be reading more

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      2 days ago

      Nuclear waste is not and has never been an issue worth discussing. It’s almost exclusively invoked by antinuclear advocates.

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      3 days ago

      Look I hear you, the way the US does nuclear power has a lot of issues, it’s really an industry that requires strong state backing like what China and Russia have going on.

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    4 days ago

    So Iran can’t but the US can? Is this plant going to be an acceptable target now that the US has entered the war?

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    Building a nuclear reactor in the current day is a massive waste of money. Instead get solar and wind energy which directly work and have about the same cost.

    Nuclear used to have a big performance to price advantage over solar and wind, but not anymore. It only takes 10 years longer before it can actually do something.

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        Battery storage is a direct medium.

        Nuclear is fine and dandy but it used to be popular because the long term cost was lower. Despite long investments.

        Nowadays you can get direct solar and wind benefits at the same price without having to wait literally 10 years.

        This is why conservatives love nuclear projects, it gives the fossil fuel industry a way to keep profiting for 10 years. Then they will cancel the project and there will be nothing in return.

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          Except battery storage costs a fortune and isnt ideal for cold climate regions.

          Plus the excessively long timespans & project costs of nuclear should wind up being curbed by things like small modular reactors and boilerplate pre certified designs.

          And trying to make nuclear projects a conservative bait and switch is one hell of a reach.

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            And trying to make nuclear projects a conservative bait and switch is one hell of a reach.

            You have not noticed the conservative agenda to push nuclear instead of renewables? Once again, it allows us to keep using oil for 10 more years.

            Nuclear has been neglected for 50 years while renewables have advanced at lightning speed. There was a case for nuclear in the past. There no longer is. I believe it is even way more expensive to build nuclear these days.

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      4 days ago

      Trump reduced the “red tape” to build this so it might just be dangerous on its own

      Assuming it comes online in less than a decade and not drastically over budget

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        Eh, the newest generation of reactors are actually really safe. It’s been a while since I’ve read up on them, but I believe that it’s impossible for some of them to meltdown.

        The red tape for building nuclear plants was based on the first few gen reactors, and needed to be reduced.

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          Thoughtfully reduced and changed. I don’t trust that the red tape reduction in this case was thoughtful, though I will admit I haven’t looked myself. With all the shit being thrown at the wall it’s impossible to keep up, even though nuclear power generation is one of my areas of interest.