The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced it is launching a drinking water quality study to look for traces of abortion pills mifepristone and misoprostol for the first time.

Anti-abortion activists, attorneys general, and lawmakers have been lobbying for the agency to carry the study for years.

Researchers at the agency will collect water samples “from several locations in different metropolitan areas” and test them for thousands of drugs, pesticides and synthetic chemicals, including mifepristone, misoprostol, and multiple types of “forever chemicals,” according to a description of the study.

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    Meanwhile my drinking water is tasting moldy for a week and the city doesn’t really know why or when it will end. It’s great

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    Totalitarianism eventually falls because they waste so much time micromanaging. But before it does fall, a lot will get hurt in the process.

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    It kinda sucks that something like this is being done for an anti-abortion agenda rather than interest in keeping our water clean and safe to drink.

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    Drinking water? You mean waste water?

    Edit: nope, they’re testing drinking water. Well, that’s good I guess. I don’t know how the hell abortion drugs would get into drinking water, but it would be very bad if we found it there.

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      yeah , what? So their concern is that drinking water is being ‘contaminated’ by a number of drugs including abortion drugs. I am not sure how that would be happening but yeah better than trying to track people down via waste water. Strange.

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    this is just fucking vile.

    that’d be like using the surveillance state to screen for immigrants instead of pedophiles. oh wait a hot second…

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    “I think what’s concerning here is that there’s already a culture of criminalization around abortion, especially since Dobbs [v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization], and the potential to use this as justification for further surveillance could create more fear for abortion seekers, for providers at a time when folks are already being criminalized and for their pregnancy outcomes, including abortion,” Anna Bernstein, principal federal policy adviser for the Guttmacher Institute, told The Hill.

    Nathan Donley, the environmental health science director at the Center for Biological Diversity, told the outlet mifepristone is not one of the known contaminants on the EPA’s list to regulate.

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    What about all the forever chemicals of… (Insert numerous chemicals that when you can measure it it’s already 1000x the amount it should be)?

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      Did you not make it to the third paragraph?

      test them for thousands of drugs, pesticides and synthetic chemicals, including mifepristone, misoprostol, and multiple types of “forever chemicals,” according to a description of the study.

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      The DOW Chemical company already donated $50k to Trump to get EPA off their pfas contaminations of the environment.

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      people refuse to accept that the epstein class exists despite their priorities written into law like this.

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    It has alleged that as women increasingly use the abortion pills at home to terminate pregnancies, flushing the expelled tissue, traces of the pill make their way to water supply, contaminating it.

    That’s fucked, if true.

    One, don’t flush any drugs. Take it to a pharmacy and ask them to dispose of it properly.

    Two, anything flushed should end up in a wastewater treatment facility. If the waste water is somehow contaminating your drinking water, that sounds like a clean water act violation, and the government should be investigated and fined repeatedly until this is fixed.

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      Take it to a pharmacy and ask them to dispose of it properly.

      Many people are (rightly) scared of doing this. It’s more discreet to flush than it is to get rid of it in a public place.

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      1. A waste water treatment facility has extreme limitations on what it can clean, and literally just gets it to the won’t-kill-the-environment level. Hormones, viruses, etc are too small to effectively process on a massive scale. New York for example, still sometimes releases raw sewage because they can’t keep up.
      2. Trump and the Supreme Court have basically gutted the clean water act. If it’s not navigable, the law doesn’t apply to it.
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    That sounds like the kind of study we would all want.

    I don’t understand how checking for prescription medication and forever chemicals in drinking water is controversial…

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      Because they’re doing it with the understanding and the wish to find them not to clean up the water but to ban any related to abortions.

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        This guy is not worth the time, their name is literally TrollAccount69. Hopefully admins remove them soon. Block and move on.

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          Nah bad engagement fucks up their models when it’s ai and I don’t mind messing with morons on the off chance they’re a clanker.

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        It’s a study to see if prescription drugs and forever chemicals are in drinking water.

        I would like to know if prescription drugs and forever chemicals are in drinking water.

        I do not care if the people who advocated for testing for particular prescription drugs are anti abortion. It is good to know if prescription drugs and forever chemicals are in drinking water.

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          If you read all of the article, you will see that their stated intent is to restrict access to abortion pills. This is scary because a government agency is being weaponized to lay ground work to strip rights. Neither of the hormones in those pills are on a list of environmentally damaging things.

          Given that the risk is restricting rights for a whole group of people vs an unproven. Risk to the environment, the prudent thing to do is test for the KNOWN harmful chemicals and focus on mitigating them in the environment.

          I would be in support of researching and if, after research, it was discovered that those drugs are harmful, testing for and addressing them.

          Tl;Dr There are big fish to fry in terms of environmentally damaging chemicals. Frying something that might not even be a fish, at the price of government intervention in a whole group of people, and, honestly, generation of children, is a terrible violation of privacy, and rights.

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            I might have missed it but the article seemed to state two things separately, that the epa is gonna test for a bunch of stuff and some birth control compounds are included in that group and that an anti abortion group has been pushing for that for quite some time.

            Im old, so the claim that the pill gets in the water isn’t new to me. A government entity actually testing to see if it’s true is. I don’t think it’s bad to do this study.

            I think saying “no, you shouldn’t even test for it!” Does more harm to women than otherwise.

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            It’s a good thing they’re planning to do a scientific study then, that methodology claims to be able to root out bias.

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                It’s the same as before rfk. It’s the same people by and large as before rfk.

                Surely you can’t be suggesting a department which could conduct perfectly reasonable research before is suddenly unable to do so now?

                How can a study on the presence of thousands of different prescription drugs and other chemicals in drinking water be bad in your eyes?

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                  No it’s not.

                  Sorta. Capable, possibly. Willing, not at all.

                  The study itself, mm sorta here nor there. What they do with the results is the issue.

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      The group has been advocating for the Trump administration to restrict access to the drug. It has alleged that as women increasingly use the abortion pills at home to terminate pregnancies, flushing the expelled tissue, traces of the pill make their way to water supply, contaminating it. The group conducted its own testing in three U.S. cities. It further has claimed that the drug is also contaminating tap water and threatening human fertility.

      While water contamination from all pharmaceuticals is a growing concern, there is no evidence that abortion pills are harming the water supply or are harmful to people.

      “I think what’s concerning here is that there’s already a culture of criminalization around abortion, especially since Dobbs [v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization], and the potential to use this as justification for further surveillance could create more fear for abortion seekers, for providers at a time when folks are already being criminalized and for their pregnancy outcomes, including abortion,” Anna Bernstein, principal federal policy adviser for the Guttmacher Institute, told The Hill.

      This is another way to target women who have abortions. I consider that pretty controversial for a government to do.

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        I will not claim to be a medical professional, but testing to see if prescription drugs are in the drinking water supply seems like a good thing.

        If the anti abortion people call for testing drinking water for prescription drugs and none are found then that’s that. If traces are found then that deserves scrutiny and possible remediation.

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            Yes. An anti abortion group which has advocated for testing drinking water for the presence of birth control drugs was quoted. It’s something they’ve been advocating for for a long time. Many years ago it was considered a kooky conspiracy talking point.

            The article describes the study as testing for thousands of chemicals. The article lists two birth control drugs among them.

            It would be good to know if those chemicals are in drinking water.

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              While water contamination from all pharmaceuticals is a growing concern, there is no evidence that abortion pills are harming the water supply or are harmful to people.

              Nathan Donley, the environmental health science director at the Center for Biological Diversity, told the outlet mifepristone is not one of the known contaminants on the EPA’s list to regulate.

              “There are major water contaminants that need to be regulated, and testing for those things can be good as long as regulation happens. And then on the other hand, if we’re wasting time on a witch hunt for… those things like mifepristone, then that’s time and resources we take away from regulating and studying things that that are actually a problem,” Donley said.

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                A careful reader will notice that in those quotes no one is saying there isn’t presence or contamination, only that it’s nothing to worry about, is not harmful to people and isn’t on the official list of stuff the epa looks out for.

                I genuinely don’t see the big deal. Crazy people have been right about stuff before. You figure out if they’re right by investigating that stuff rather than dismissing it out of hand. Including the crazy people claims in the big water study looking for a thousand other things is a good way to save money on lab costs.

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                  It’s a dangerous precedent to allow these kinds of decisions to be driven by anti-abortion and anti-women’s rights activists.

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        I would urge you not to judge people by their username or your preconceived notions of them, famous Hanna-Barbara character.