Genuine question: What could the Democratic Party do that would make you stop supporting them? Because clearly, a literal genocide isn’t it.
When our progressive movement, either DSA has a full split as well as having more availability (same for PSL) then there is no longer a practical utility for the democratic party. Until then its them or crusader republicans doing double time.
You are misunderstanding blue no matter who as being pro dem rather than a last resort. And it continues to be one because MLs just want a total surrender of the electoral front.
My question was not “What could happen that would make you stop supporting them”, it was “What could they (as in the party itself) do that would make you stop supporting them”.
MLs just want a total surrender of the electoral front.
I actually don’t. If you’re a leftist, your electoral front should definitely not be represented by the Democratic Party. And it doesn’t matter that it’s a “last resort”, it has never worked and it will continue to fail.
Genuine question, what would republicans do for you to not shill for them? Because the thing you claim to care about, literal genocide, isn’t one of them.
He has a point tho… If both sides commit genocide and you find a genocide under one side unacceptable then you should find a genocide from the other side also unacceptable.
By your own logic if you don’t move to a third party then you are in fact pro genocide.
And genocides have happened under both parties control. Repeatedly in fact though out history.
So are you just pro genocide when it’s in line with your values or something?
Nobody in this thread supports the republicans, it was a deliberately bad-faith attempt to declare any opposition to the DNC to be support for the GOP.
The answer is I don’t shill for them. But what I do know with you American supremacists is that upon me saying this, you will instantly enter into pedanticism in order to dodge the question I just asked. Prove me right please :)
Ah I just noticed your account age and skimmed your history. Won’t be making the mistake again of thinking there’s a 5% chance you’re not a bad faith actor.
Two week old account constantly posting about how evil Democrats are and how everyone should vote against them, right before an election. Yeah you’re unique. And especially, a moral little angel everyone should strive to be like.
Yeah, because I moved from Quokk.au to Blahaj, and after indefinitely getting banned from Blahaj’s 196 comm I moved to lemmy.ml. I’ve been on Lemmy for over half a year now, though I’ve ideologically moved further to the left.
Ok and I’m so sure this is good faith on your part! As long as republicans are worse than democrats, I am forced to vote for democrats in almost every context. This is not a real choice, it is the only moral one. I am not someone who can pretend taking a symbolic stand is more important than actually minimizing harm.
These conversations are literally never useful though, because you would rather commit seppuku than acknowledge that third parties have little to no chance of victory. Now, prove me right!
As long as republicans are worse than democrats, I am forced to vote for democrats in almost every context.
In what way are they better than the Republican Party? Giving you treats? And how has this strategy worked out in the last decades of doing it?
This is not a real choice, it is the only moral one. I am not someone who can pretend taking a symbolic stand is more important than actually minimizing harm.
“minimizing harm” to you! The Republicans aren’t like the Democrats, as they don’t just massacre millions of random brown people that you can easily dehumanize. They also make eggs more expensive! They make it so you experience 1/1,000,000ths of the suffering your country has caused to the outside world!
These conversations are literally never useful though, because you would rather commit seppuku than acknowledge that third parties have little to no chance of victory. Now, prove me right!
If Nat-Z America has no chance of changing, then it should collapse already. And I will give credit to Republicans here in that they’re causing irreparable damage to your shitass country. At least American science is completely fucked AFAIK, next comes the military! 😊
I didn’t read this horseshit when I skimmed and saw “least harmful to you!”
Pro fuckin jection. You’re sacrificing Palestinians and you want people to think you’re so morally pure for doing it. You’d happily drop bombs on them apparently, since you must be well aware that trying to convince people to vote against Democrats is going to increase such US military support.
Everything about you screams shill. You might fool some morons but you won’t fool me :)
You’re sacrificing Palestinians and you want people to think you’re so morally pure for doing it. You’d happily drop bombs on them apparently, since you must be well aware that trying to convince people to vote against Democrats is going to increase such US military support.
When Republicans massacre Palestinians, they do it with an evil smirk and they wear spray tan and they’re really fucking fat. When Democrats demolish literally every hospital and school in Gaza and massacre much of the civillian population, they do it while smiling and filming TikToks (and don’t forget the pride flags!). This is the actual difference between them.
Everything about you screams shill. You might fool some morons but you won’t fool me :)
Genuine question: What could the Democratic Party do that would make you stop supporting them? Because clearly, a literal genocide isn’t it.
When our progressive movement, either DSA has a full split as well as having more availability (same for PSL) then there is no longer a practical utility for the democratic party. Until then its them or crusader republicans doing double time.
You are misunderstanding blue no matter who as being pro dem rather than a last resort. And it continues to be one because MLs just want a total surrender of the electoral front.
My question was not “What could happen that would make you stop supporting them”, it was “What could they (as in the party itself) do that would make you stop supporting them”.
I actually don’t. If you’re a leftist, your electoral front should definitely not be represented by the Democratic Party. And it doesn’t matter that it’s a “last resort”, it has never worked and it will continue to fail.
Genuine question, what would republicans do for you to not shill for them? Because the thing you claim to care about, literal genocide, isn’t one of them.
Answer the question.
Also, what are you even talking about? Where have they shilled for the republicans?
“DUUHHHH UR A REPUBLIKAAN DUHHH” 😂
Great rebuttal jackass. You’re really showcasing the intellectual integrity of an average Democrat. Are you going to answer the question or not?
He has a point tho… If both sides commit genocide and you find a genocide under one side unacceptable then you should find a genocide from the other side also unacceptable.
By your own logic if you don’t move to a third party then you are in fact pro genocide.
And genocides have happened under both parties control. Repeatedly in fact though out history.
So are you just pro genocide when it’s in line with your values or something?
Nobody in this thread supports the republicans, it was a deliberately bad-faith attempt to declare any opposition to the DNC to be support for the GOP.
And what makes you think they don’t?
Should I assume you fuck donkeys?
Weird how you don’t like the inverse of that question. Shocking, really.
The answer is I don’t shill for them. But what I do know with you American supremacists is that upon me saying this, you will instantly enter into pedanticism in order to dodge the question I just asked. Prove me right please :)
Ah I just noticed your account age and skimmed your history. Won’t be making the mistake again of thinking there’s a 5% chance you’re not a bad faith actor.
“Everyone Who Disagrees With Me Is A Robot” and other insane conspiracies for the right wing mind to avoid introspection
“Bad faith!!! Bad faith!!!” You people really do sing the same tune.
Two week old account constantly posting about how evil Democrats are and how everyone should vote against them, right before an election. Yeah you’re unique. And especially, a moral little angel everyone should strive to be like.
Yeah, because I moved from Quokk.au to Blahaj, and after indefinitely getting banned from Blahaj’s 196 comm I moved to lemmy.ml. I’ve been on Lemmy for over half a year now, though I’ve ideologically moved further to the left.
Ok and I’m so sure this is good faith on your part! As long as republicans are worse than democrats, I am forced to vote for democrats in almost every context. This is not a real choice, it is the only moral one. I am not someone who can pretend taking a symbolic stand is more important than actually minimizing harm.
These conversations are literally never useful though, because you would rather commit seppuku than acknowledge that third parties have little to no chance of victory. Now, prove me right!
In what way are they better than the Republican Party? Giving you treats? And how has this strategy worked out in the last decades of doing it?
“minimizing harm” to you! The Republicans aren’t like the Democrats, as they don’t just massacre millions of random brown people that you can easily dehumanize. They also make eggs more expensive! They make it so you experience 1/1,000,000ths of the suffering your country has caused to the outside world!
If Nat-Z America has no chance of changing, then it should collapse already. And I will give credit to Republicans here in that they’re causing irreparable damage to your shitass country. At least American science is completely fucked AFAIK, next comes the military! 😊
I didn’t read this horseshit when I skimmed and saw “least harmful to you!”
Pro fuckin jection. You’re sacrificing Palestinians and you want people to think you’re so morally pure for doing it. You’d happily drop bombs on them apparently, since you must be well aware that trying to convince people to vote against Democrats is going to increase such US military support.
Everything about you screams shill. You might fool some morons but you won’t fool me :)
When Republicans massacre Palestinians, they do it with an evil smirk and they wear spray tan and they’re really fucking fat. When Democrats demolish literally every hospital and school in Gaza and massacre much of the civillian population, they do it while smiling and filming TikToks (and don’t forget the pride flags!). This is the actual difference between them.
Oh my god, you’re so cool 😮