Where is lawbreaking not just visible, but designed to be seen? Where is antisocial behaviour worn as a badge of honour? Where is pleasure gained directly from causing distress? And where is reckless endangerment often ignored by the police or treated with the mildest of punishments? The answer is on the roads.
Trump is solving one part of the problem… Now only rich assholes can have a big ass truck. So they’ll probably be less and probably have insurance. Probably.
Rolling coal, giant lifted trucks, all this shit, just take their licenses away forever and let them drown in the car-centric cesspool they created.
It’s ignored by police because it’s one or more less vehicles traveling fast. Not every State Trooper or Police Officer is trained to drive 140 mph or higher, I would guess most aren’t. I’m sure the idiots in the trucks don’t know how to drive that fast either.
Racing has existed since the beginning of time, ever since one person challenged another that they are faster, and the bet was called. The Need for Speed is not just a cars problem… From horses to bikes, autos, boats, airplanes, and even commuter trains, someone wants to go fast. Best we can do is enforce and penalize dangerous behavior on the road and not shut down every motorsport park that gives people an “out” for this.
Men have risk-taking burned into their DNA thanks to hundreds of thousands of years of primate evolution. This is not anything that can be switched off.
And It will come out whether society wants it to or not.
What truly matters is if there is a venue in which such risk-taking can freely exist, equally as unrestrained and chaotic, without impacting wider society. Because if that venue doesn’t exist… any venue immediately available will be violently cracked open regardless of what anyone wants.
It all comes down to supply and demand. If the demand is there, supply will be generated regardless of the punishments in place to discourage it. And frequently in spite of punishments, as successful evasion becomes an integral part of the risk-taking as well.
You cannot smother basic human nature. That has never worked at any time in human history. All you can do is divert it and insulate the rest of society from it.
the bioessensialist likes to thing their dumbassery is merely a design of nature rather than a conscious decision to be defeatist and interpret everything in self-serving ways
the bioessensialist likes to thing their dumbassery is merely a design of nature rather than a conscious decision to be defeatist and interpret everything in self-serving ways
That’s like saying “evolution isn’t real”.
Actually, no. That is saying exactly that.
So you’re a flat-earther of the young-earth-creationist variety. Cool beans.
Petro-Insecurity, not Petro-Masculinity
Because a cop’s job is to protect the rich. They do the bare minimum to keep us in line, to keep the people from considering rioting, to keep us going to work, etc.
Power doesn’t care whether we kill each other, wreck cars, plow over kids in the cross-walk, etc. Power has no empathy. Power only cares when we get so fed up we take to the streets and show up at their front door with torches and pitchforks. That’s when the cops earn their pay, when they show up in force, kitted out, and ready to rumble.
Kids being shot inside the school? Hold back till the shooting stops, don’t want any of us getting hurt.
People rioting and threatening power directly? Bring out the tanks. Remember the George Floyd protests?
gonna be a fascinating time as gas spikes and these chuds lose their whole personality over not being able to drive their roided up shitmobiles everywhere.
same with monster truck rallies - how long can that garbage continue? or any conspicuous consumption?
we’re better off with it all dead.
culture war? class war? as far as I can tell it’s a battle between the rich and stupid who want to pollute and don’t give a shit for future generations, and the rest of the species who just want to fucking live.
I’m reminded of the anti-union poster suggesting not paying union dues, rather buying a game console instead.
After the 2024 election it appears that Americans genuinely cannot think further than their own impulses.
I’m reminded of the anti-union poster suggesting not paying union dues, rather buying a game console instead.
valid.
After the 2024 election it appears that Americans genuinely cannot think further than their own impulses.
depressingly accurate.
I just don’t see it as upper class vs lower class, as much as polluter enthusiast class vs. the rest of us who like breathing
Honestly driving fast is kinda overrated and probably a consequences of driving big comfortable cars and people bring dopamine junkies
My wife does this and she drives an EV. So what’s “Petro” and “masculine” about that?
She street races and rolls coal in an EV?
She’s gotta keep that kettle grill handy to roll charcoal and own the flavorless gassers.
Was about to say the same, almost. I see plenty of women drivers who approach my vehicle from behind very rapidly as I’m going the speed limit, so clearly they are going very fast, and tailgating as well. This is not just men.
Also I hope you tell your wife to slow down and not be a danger/annoyance to others. ❤️
Also what’s in the Epstein files?
I understand the academic roots and I’m sure the paper it was coined in is top tier sociology. But we have got to stop labeling bad shit as masculine, it only amplifies the behavior. The dude 6" off your bumper is not going to hear “petro-masculinity” and have a quiet contemplative moment about carbon emissions and road safety. He’s going to feel scolded, hear that you’re triggered and frightened of his masculinity, and then he’s going to start driving even more aggressively out of spite. And nobody will stop him, because nobody with the power to do so cares. Hell, the cops themselves are often the ones who drive like this.
I understand the academic roots and I’m sure the paper it was coined in is top tier sociology.
Which paper? All I’m seeing is an opinion piece. I’m confused by you linking this to sociology research
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Is there any action that won’t trigger spite from this type of person? Their entire existence consists of playing the victim and throwing tantrums because somebody advocated for something different to what they are used to.
Maybe, maybe not. I know for a fact that this type of communication backfires spectacularly though.
Maybe, maybe not. I know for a fact that this type of communication backfires spectacularly though.
dumbest sentences I’ve read in ages. “MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT”
well then if you know for a fact, it’s not maybe, maybe not? do you even think about what you’re writing?
apologist for garbage, wants people to think about the poor persecuted masculinity.
pfft. poor fucking babies
The sentence,
Maybe, maybe not
relates to the question,
Is there any action that won’t trigger spite from this type of person?
from the poster above.
The phrase,
I know for a fact
refers to the phrase,
this type of communication
that being,
The dude 6" off your bumper is not going to hear “petro-masculinity” and have a quiet contemplative moment about carbon emissions and road safety. He’s going to feel scolded, hear that you’re triggered and frightened of his masculinity, and then he’s going to start driving even more aggressively out of spite.
which, of course, is a strict subset of “any action”. It is therefore entirely possible to have certain knowledge of one without certain knowledge of the other.
Maybe you should learn how to read full sentences before you ask people if they think before writing?
He’s going to feel scolded, hear that you’re triggered and frightened of his masculinity, and then he’s going to start driving even more aggressively out of spite.
HE FUCKING SHOULD. HE SHOULD BE TRIGGERED.
You are completely missing the point in some silly fucking kindness competition.
As for your rhetorical chops, construct better sentences bro. jfc
Y’all can’t think past your own feelings. Rhetoric matters. This rhetoric makes chuds double down. Irrespective of whether or not theres some optimal phrasing this phrasing sucks.
This rhetoric makes chuds double down.
they doubled, tripled and mortgaged their house, grandparents and teeth a long time ago.
not any more offensive than maybe maybe not i know for a fact lol.
I love that the chuds can engage in whatever heinous shit they want to say, outright racism fascism etc., but you’re upset for the chuds that’ll be upset.
DUDE, GET YOUR FUCKING PRIORITIES IN ORDER
This thread got me thinking. I think OP is correct that we need to stop doing the masculinity thing. If its a behavior change we are hoping for a better way to cause self reflection might be to use some of the noble features of what they think masculinity is. Does a protector drive like that and endanger everyone? Other peoples families / kids are also on the road. Would someone trust you to drive their loved ones around? Dont you want to be the guy everyone can count on to do the right thing and get us back safe?
Hey man I saw you pull into the lot the other day. I was surprised cause don’t act like you would drive that way. Make them question how they are being perceived. A little manipulative but fuck it.
Really good way to go about it. You do the same thing with children.
Yep. If you want to reach people it’s gotta be relevant to what they care about.
Nah, this doesn’t work. I tried to gently tell a guy at the gas station one time, in one of those huge lifted pickups, that he had his brights on (as a hint that his headlights were too fucking bright) and he freaked out on me, screaming, threatening, etc.
Gently doesn’t work and you were a stranger. These messages need to come from friends or acquaintances / coworkers / clients. The message needs to be delivered assertively while leaving them a small out to protect their ego.
They won’t change in front of you, they need to process that on their own. Don’t rub their face in it if they change.
They won’t change
shoulda stopped there. these idiots have made their entire culture about this trash and it’s killing us all.
Listen dude I dont disagree largely, but people can and do change all the time. My posts are solution focused should you want to try something to the chuds in your life, be safe.
Making fun of them, making them part of the outgroup. You can’t show fear, so in this case with the car just get out of the way and let them fuck tenderness up the road because they will get caught. Or call the cops and say they are swerving appearing drunk lol.
But in regular life you basically need to laugh in their face and cut them out of being in the group.
He’s going to feel scolded, hear that you’re triggered and frightened of his masculinity,
oh poor fuckin baby, he’s gonna feel scolded because he’s being CALLED OUT ON HIS SHIT BEHAVIOR
Is the important thing to correct the behavior or to score points?
I don’t give a fuck about points, people need to see that this behavior is unacceptable.
they’re shitting into your lungs, your children’s future, you should be outraged. their petulant garbage is poisoning the entire fucking planet, cooking us where we live, the fact that you’re not incensed is an indicator of how easy they’ve had it. every vroom takes food off your kids plate, every belch of smog adds to the asthma and copd.
how can you have any idea of the damage and NOT be angry? are you that much of a chickenshit that you’ll watch a bunch of utter morons destroy the ONLY KNOWN, ACCESSIBLE, LIVABLE ECOSYSTEM IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE, and won’t even get a bit cranky because ‘oh it’s to score points’
fuck points, I want my kids to live in a world that’s not an ecological hellscape.
I am very angry, I’m just also trying to stay measured here.
We need that chucklefuck in the f-350 to play ball. His feelings are important because his reactions are important. Telling him how bad and dumb he is and tying it to his identity as a man is counterproductive because all that shit just makes him double down.
LOLOLOL
you’re never going to convince them with kindness. dude, wake the fuck up - if they cared at all, they wouldn’t be these people.
you’re gonna waste the remainder of your life trying to be kind while the world chokes on their effluence.
Petro masculinity 😂.
It’s like they want people to make fun of them.
Woke 1 cringe must go
Look at history.
“Whippersnapper” came from young men racing horses and buggies on the roads. They’d snap the whips over the horses heads to make them go faster.
My mom drives like this, don’t be sexist about a non gendered issue. Ah just realized it’s from the opinion article title.
yes, I’m sure there are a couple of dozen examples to the contrary… nationwide.
overwhelmingly the aggressive drivers and motorheads whose entire personality is VROOM VROOM are male.
You know this, I know this, you see it every day, but sure, throw your mom under the bus… Cute
My dad is the safe driver so it’s weird
good for you. you know that’s a vanishingly small counter example to the overwhelmingly male crowd represented by the motorheads.
ah, the ‘but aktchually’ crowd
edit: lol but aktchually look at all the angry downvotes what a bucket o chuds
My wife is also the crazy driver tho when she’s on her women cycle and something triggers her anxiety(almost anything). Even my father in law complemented my driving and told her to learn from me.
there it is…
I knew it was coming and here we go… women cycle… holy shit
Oh want me to just call her crazy at driving at random times? fuck off
