• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    11 days ago

    calling anyone in the piker clan leftwing is the stretch here since they’re liberals that only differ from democrats due their criticism of isreali zionism.

    and establishment democrats once distanced themselves from obama too – democrats are schools of fish that simply do what their neighbor is doing without much thought as they collectively swim away from whatever they perceive to be a shark atm.

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      11 days ago

      I don’t even follow him but I know that’s bullshit lol

      The ONLY difference is his criticism of Israel? Really?

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              11 days ago

              Perfection is the enemy of good, AOC is not perfect but she’s hell of a lot better then the majority of dems.

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                yes she is better but that’s not saying much about democrats since they’ve helped lower the bar so much that it’s a tripping hazard in hell.

                more importantly: genocide and ethnic-cleansing aren’t just “other issues” – they’re red lines that prove how little humanity and basic fucking human decency a person has within them.

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          Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize UBI, universal healthcare, and being pro-China are standard Democrat positions.

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            This is what the Democratic Party does; it’s who they are. They’re willing to feign support for anything their voters want just as long as there’s no chance that they can pass it. They won control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections by pretending they wanted to compel an end to the Iraq War and Bush surveillance and interrogation abuses because they knew they would not actually do so; and indeed, once they were given the majority, the Democratic-controlled Congress continued to fund the war without conditions, to legalize Bush’s eavesdropping program, and to do nothing to stop Bush’s habeas and interrogation abuses (“Gosh, what can we do? We just don’t have 60 votes).

            greenwald called it 16 years ago and harry byrd predating manchin or sinema by over a half century proves that democrats have been doing this longer than most of us have been alive – it’s called the ratchet effect.

            racheting

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              11 days ago

              Not addressing anything your opponent has said in favor of bringing up some unrelated point has a name – it’s called “monologuing”

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                11 days ago

                and disregarding evidence that directly addresses your opponent’s point is called “willful ignorance” – it’s fitting that liberals exhibit it as much as maga does.