• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Ah yes, let’s complain when people post factual memes about countries that both commit genocide, and are both heavily invested in destabilizing western governments

    I take it you’re one of those “free” thinkers too?

    How hard is it to recognize that, yes, the US is fucking evil, yes, always has been, but that the exact same goes for Russia and China? Ooohh, what a concept, multiple parties being evil? *brain explodes

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        14 hours ago

        So how much does daddy Putin or mommy xi pay exactly? Is it worth it, or are you actually one of those people that just ignores the thousands of photos, videos, and witness testimonies? Or are you one of those conspiracy types that believes its all orchestrated by reptilians or something?

        Doesn’t really matter, all those options make you a horrible person

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      4 days ago

      I can’t tell if this is directed at me or a hypothetical conversation with a tankie.

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      3 days ago

      The concept of having more then two parties does indeed stupify the liberal mind.

      For the haters, the limit is one.

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        3 days ago

        There will be no third party. The bank rolled two party system needs two bags of dildos and they will stop at nothing to crush any change from the bottom. The third party will be split between two optically moderates from both parties as plants. The stank yanks got amnesia… talking out both sides of the mouth unable to balance their contradictions. It is agonizing to watch since I share their inheritance.

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      3 days ago

      Jesus Christ can you at least write like a normal person? Why can’t Americans just admit that their country suck and leave it at that?

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        13 hours ago

        Huh…

        Well, for one: I’m not an American. I don’t know why you just presume that I am, but… Oh wait, I dared to criticize your dear leader, that was enough for you to simply assume it, amirite?

        For two: had you bothered to read the complete comment, you would have seen “yes, the US is fucking evil, yes, always has been”. I’m sure you and I can both see eye to eye on that statement. The only difference is that you support other evil states for unknown and not understandable reasons (well, its money or lack of brain cells) whereas I do not support any evil state.

        So fuck the USA, fuck Russia, fuck China, fuck Iran, fuck Israel, fuck north Korea, and fuck a few more because they all have evil dictatorship governments

      • EnchiladaRaisins@lemmy.zip
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        3 days ago

        Why can’t Americans just admit that their country suck and leave it at that?

        It’s a good question. Because our land is beautiful and a lot of us are working to keep it that way. Because we still see lots of people trying to come here for a better life. There are much fewer now, and a lot of us have deep shame for what the asshole in power has done to their communities. Despite appearances, a lot of us respect and admire them for taking the hard, unwanted jobs that nevertheless still need to get done. We still believe in what the Statue of Liberty stands for despite anything the asshole tries to do to it. Yes, we functionally conquered the world when we became the sole superpower after the Soviet Union fell apart. But we also led the world with science, inventions, entertainment, and aid. That’s lost now, and a lot of us deeply resent everyone who had a hand in ruining that.

        We are still working to make ourselves better.

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          Yes, we functionally conquered the world when we became the sole superpower after the Soviet Union fell apart. But we also led the world with science, inventions, entertainment, and aid. That’s lost now, and a lot of us deeply resent everyone who had a hand in ruining that.

          Oh. So it’s because you haven’t studied history. Got it.

          Read your words. You are trying to reclaim a lost position of “goodness” for the USA, that was lost through the bad actions of bad people. You are trying to reclaim the position of helping the world, being a beautiful country that respects others and is welcoming.

          We call that “Blue MAGA”. You’re imagining a time before the Rs fucked everything up and trying to move “forward” to reclaim the position of “good”.

          The USA was never good. Not only did FDR put anyone vaguely asian looking into concentration camps, the administration stole all of their commercial property and wealth. Not only that, but the FDR administration established the entirety of racial redlining. The USA has been at war for >90% of its existence, and half of the years it wasn’t at war, it was engaged in the massive chattel slavery and maintenance of the genocide of indigenous peoples. The USA wasn’t taken over by racist pedophilic raping oligarchs, it was founded by them. Trump doesn’t hold a candle to the evils of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.

          As long as you believe in some mythical past where the USA was a net good for the world, you will never be able to understand why the rest of the world wants to see your country destroyed and dismantled.

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          3 days ago

          I understand. My question was: why can’t Americans NOT involve Russia, china or whichever other superpower to make themselves seem better? It’s ok to just admit that you suck and leave it at that.

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            3 days ago

            I didn’t downvote you. I think the answer to that is that all humans everywhere, Americans included, want to immediately jump to whatabboutism to save face.