• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    I see comments like this from Americans who are surprised that Ukrainians are still working and going to school. Do they think people just stop needing food and rent money because the streets are getting bombed?

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      Weird that it would be coming from Americans given how often US media has depicted the importance of the homefront during the various wars that America has participated in.

      Militaries still need food and supplies to operate, so someone has to be making/raising/growing all of that stuff. And those workers need to be paid, accommodated, and kept happy, so every other industry like banking, education, healthcare, entertainment, etc. needs to keep running at full steam to prop up all aspects of the supply chain.

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      Many US states like Mississippi have a higher gun death rate than Ukraine during an active war. If people can go to work in Mississippi, they definitely can do the same in Ukraine.

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      It’s similar to how Americans can have domestic terrorism be a constant occurrence but it barely is a concept. It’s not uncommon to have small cells blow up and sabotage electric grids during the dead of winter now. It’s common enough where every winter I have some prep just in case my grid is attacked.

      Or even more regularly, lone wolves mass shoot people waiting for a 4th of July Parade, or the movies, or the grocery store, or a school, or anywhere really because being shot dead for no reason is always a consideration for an American. My family always has eyes out for mass shooters. There’s a few in my city every year.

      Hell we even had domestic terror cells plot to kidnap and murder a Blue State Governor.

      But still Americans generally won’t connect all of these things and call it what it is: an irregular war on a domestic level.

      Americans who haven’t gone to war themselves, or haven’t studied this issue, think of war mostly and only as Total War. Where everything is bombed out 100%. There is no functioning anything and there’s only apocalyptic style survival. More like a zombie apocalypse scenario.

      They don’t realize that “war” for normal people…is just life and life keeps going. Which is not unlike what most Americans live under every day—living life as best they can while trying to avoid massive hits of destruction and violence. (Ukraine is obviously a much higher grade of actual war.)

      This concept of, the only real war is Total War, is partly why it’s so easy to sell to American Conservstives that Ukraine should just give up because they’re already dead. I think that the Americans who believe this propaganda would be shocked to know that anything still stands in Ukraine. I assume they assume that 95% Ukraine looks like post-bomb Dresden.

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      Also, wars are hella expensive. Taxes going up is inevitable, the cost of living will go up, it’s just a question of “when”, not “if”.

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        Property tax, and subsequently rent, is already going to go up thanks to the dismantling of the Department of Education. People just haven’t realized that yet. The federal taxes previously used to supplement schools will be going toward the wealthy tax breaks. We’re not getting that back.

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      They think that once all the capital is destroyed, they’ll get to live like kings by taking the full value of their work.

      And they won’t accept to learn their work is only that valuable because of that capital.