• scarabic@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    I mean fuck them and everything truly, but is this really such a paradox? It’s not like both can’t be true: say the men get jobs and the women and children get welfare. Or some immigrants take jobs and some are lazy and don’t. You can even get welfare while working if you are poor enough.

    I’m just saying - trying to fight this mindset by calling it an impossible paradox will not work because that doesn’t even make basic sense. I know you’re only parroting what’s been said in a million tweets, so I’m not blaming you for inventing this idea. Just maybe stop repeating it like it’s a super clever gotcha. It isn’t.

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      11 hours ago

      Illegal immigrants do not get welfare. Undocumented immigrants cannot receive things like cash assistance, food stamps (SNAP), Medicare, or regular Medicaid.

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        8 hours ago

        Your typical MAGAT would tell you that those might be the rules but they aren’t followed, or are defrauded. Fraud does exist, at least.

    • Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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      22 hours ago

      If immigrant families are getting benefits when adults in the household are working jobs, this means they are below the federal poverty line that makes them eligible. (Usually if a child was born in the US to immigrant parents, the family will qualify for some benefits because the child is an American citizen.) This means that immigrants are working jobs where they are being underpaid, because no American in their right mind would want to work a job that pays wages below what it takes to stay alive. The narrative that these people are getting free benefits, and Americans aren’t is a bullshit narrative. Immigrants aren’t stealing jobs; their labor is being exploited in positions Americans don’t want.