I had a pretty funny discussion where someone was like “they’re bussing them in so they vote democrat!” And I was like, but they’re not registered to vote. “Well the democrats want to change that.” But most immigrants lean heavily republican, and are anti immigration as well, sort of a pull up the ladder behind you thing. “Well because even they know what the democrats are doing is stupid!”
And then 5 minutes later they’re saying the first line, when they just agreed the exact opposite is true… it’s like the facts are only true if it supports the argument that they’re making at that exact instant
Having worked on local issues such as homelessness I can tell you that it is not a both sides issue much like most politics in the US. You have the progressives that are using evidence and best practices to deal with problems and you have conservatives who just want them out of the community.
That is why you are so funny to me, because you lack any real world experience and you think all sides are the same.
right, my years of working in non-profits and in housing policy clearly mean i’m an ignorant fool. and some internet tough guy slinging insults is clearly smarter than me.
progressives shoot themselves in the foot constantly due to their lack of being unable to acknowledge the harshness of reality. they ignore evidence all the time because they are paranoid of being labeled racist or looking bad. they care more about the optics of pretending to care than they do about pragmatic solutions to social problems. and they overwhelming don’t support effective policies because those policies when the policies don’t fit their narrative that all human beings wonderful and good by default. they lack the balls to make hard choices in a world with finite resources and often just throw up their hands that make a choice that might upset someone, because they’d rather homeless people starve on the streets than their housing values drop slightly by allowing a homeless shelter to expand their bed capacity.
I am glad to hear you have spent a lot of time working with nonprofits. Giving your time to organizations trying to help is admirable for sure.
First, progressive are the only ones who acknowledge the harsh reality which is why they are for things like harm reduction. Housing first, a very successful progressive housing program, challenges misconceptions about homelessness and has already proven itself effective.
Second, I have not seen any evidence in my lifetime that proves racism is right. In fact, progressives don’t have to worry about any evidence that would make them look racist because there is none. Race itself is a societal construct with no science backing at all.
Third, Progressives care about measurable results. That is the point, to improve things through change. That is why a homeless programs will be evaluated for effectiveness with multiple metrics. Often times you find out something is not working so you change it and evaluate it again.
Your view of progressives is driven by feelings and not facts. I think ultimately you have just constructed a boogeyman to keep yourself from realizing the conservatives are the problem by both siding and using human nature as a convenient scapegoat.
I suppose you might think progressive=neo liberals. Neo liberals are certainly no friend to the homeless. They, just like the conservatives, use homelessness as punishment.
you are just ‘team progressive’ no matter what? you are progressive, you are good, therefore they are the ‘good guys’.
what you don’t get is all the things you are cliaming also apply to conservatives. you just don’t see it that way because the are the ‘bad guys’.
no, i think progressives are people. just like i think everyone people. we all suffer from the same cognitive fallacies and false beliefs. especially the false beliefe that there are ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ and you are one or the other.
I had a pretty funny discussion where someone was like “they’re bussing them in so they vote democrat!” And I was like, but they’re not registered to vote. “Well the democrats want to change that.” But most immigrants lean heavily republican, and are anti immigration as well, sort of a pull up the ladder behind you thing. “Well because even they know what the democrats are doing is stupid!”
And then 5 minutes later they’re saying the first line, when they just agreed the exact opposite is true… it’s like the facts are only true if it supports the argument that they’re making at that exact instant
They operate on feelings, not facts. This is a common and true trope about conservatives.
it’s entirely true of liberals, and anarchists, and communists, and fascists.
turns out it’s a trait of human beings of any belief system. facts and complexities of reality tend to outside the simplistic grasp of most beliefs.
Both sides! You are hilarious 😂 thanks for that.
last time i checked both sides were full of people.
or are we letting robots vote now?
Yeah, and you decided that there’s an aspect to all humans that is a ludicrously false assertion.
Only one side worshipping a child rapist criminal president right now.
it’s a fact of the matter. just like all humans breathe oxygen and shit.
are you going to stop breathing because trump supporters also breathe?
oh sorry, i forgot i can’t generalize, claiming human beings breath air is clearly wrong and bad.
Having worked on local issues such as homelessness I can tell you that it is not a both sides issue much like most politics in the US. You have the progressives that are using evidence and best practices to deal with problems and you have conservatives who just want them out of the community.
That is why you are so funny to me, because you lack any real world experience and you think all sides are the same.
right, my years of working in non-profits and in housing policy clearly mean i’m an ignorant fool. and some internet tough guy slinging insults is clearly smarter than me.
progressives shoot themselves in the foot constantly due to their lack of being unable to acknowledge the harshness of reality. they ignore evidence all the time because they are paranoid of being labeled racist or looking bad. they care more about the optics of pretending to care than they do about pragmatic solutions to social problems. and they overwhelming don’t support effective policies because those policies when the policies don’t fit their narrative that all human beings wonderful and good by default. they lack the balls to make hard choices in a world with finite resources and often just throw up their hands that make a choice that might upset someone, because they’d rather homeless people starve on the streets than their housing values drop slightly by allowing a homeless shelter to expand their bed capacity.
I am glad to hear you have spent a lot of time working with nonprofits. Giving your time to organizations trying to help is admirable for sure.
First, progressive are the only ones who acknowledge the harsh reality which is why they are for things like harm reduction. Housing first, a very successful progressive housing program, challenges misconceptions about homelessness and has already proven itself effective.
Second, I have not seen any evidence in my lifetime that proves racism is right. In fact, progressives don’t have to worry about any evidence that would make them look racist because there is none. Race itself is a societal construct with no science backing at all.
Third, Progressives care about measurable results. That is the point, to improve things through change. That is why a homeless programs will be evaluated for effectiveness with multiple metrics. Often times you find out something is not working so you change it and evaluate it again.
Your view of progressives is driven by feelings and not facts. I think ultimately you have just constructed a boogeyman to keep yourself from realizing the conservatives are the problem by both siding and using human nature as a convenient scapegoat.
I suppose you might think progressive=neo liberals. Neo liberals are certainly no friend to the homeless. They, just like the conservatives, use homelessness as punishment.
you are just ‘team progressive’ no matter what? you are progressive, you are good, therefore they are the ‘good guys’.
what you don’t get is all the things you are cliaming also apply to conservatives. you just don’t see it that way because the are the ‘bad guys’.
no, i think progressives are people. just like i think everyone people. we all suffer from the same cognitive fallacies and false beliefs. especially the false beliefe that there are ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ and you are one or the other.
No, that’s not the case. I operate on facts and logic, not solely “feelings”.
What a ridiculously indefensible generalization.
everyone thinks they are the only person who operates on facts and logic.
nobody claims they operate on feelings. they claim that’s what everyone else does.