There are two kinds if people in this space. This first kind that want better designed towns in general who reject the carcentric designs of the 50s and 60s that we are stuck with. The second kind are bike supremicists who wont be happy until every roadway is bike only. They couldnt give a rats ass about peedtrians, they just want to be the biggest thing in the road.
Apparently in this case the pedestrian infrastructure is explicitly also there for bicycles. Mixing bicycles and pedestrians is not a good idea. OP calls this “good infrastructure” in the title. It would be good infrastructure, if the bicycles had their own lane, there clearly is enough space for that.
mixing bicycles and pedestrians is perfectly fine, you only get problems when people don’t have anywhere to bike quickly.
Most cyclists are happy to go 15km/h or slower, which works flawlessly with pedestrians so long as volumes of either aren’t huge. But there’s always some percentage of cyclists who want/need to go 20+km/h, which is only acceptable if there’s barely any traffic at all.
Frankly it can be really nice to mix slow cyclists and pedestrians, because it means more opportunity for people to talk to each other. I have several times met people i know while on my bike, and because my city at most separates cyclists from pedestrians with paint it means i can just stop and have a chat with them, it just feels nice.
![[image] when good infrastructure design does not just prioritize cars its a plus for everyone.](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d469ed6b-d0c3-44d0-a3a8-aafcf7dc2fff.jpeg){kind=link}
There are two kinds if people in this space. This first kind that want better designed towns in general who reject the carcentric designs of the 50s and 60s that we are stuck with. The second kind are bike supremicists who wont be happy until every roadway is bike only. They couldnt give a rats ass about peedtrians, they just want to be the biggest thing in the road.
Apparently in this case the pedestrian infrastructure is explicitly also there for bicycles. Mixing bicycles and pedestrians is not a good idea. OP calls this “good infrastructure” in the title. It would be good infrastructure, if the bicycles had their own lane, there clearly is enough space for that.
mixing bicycles and pedestrians is perfectly fine, you only get problems when people don’t have anywhere to bike quickly.
Most cyclists are happy to go 15km/h or slower, which works flawlessly with pedestrians so long as volumes of either aren’t huge. But there’s always some percentage of cyclists who want/need to go 20+km/h, which is only acceptable if there’s barely any traffic at all.
Frankly it can be really nice to mix slow cyclists and pedestrians, because it means more opportunity for people to talk to each other. I have several times met people i know while on my bike, and because my city at most separates cyclists from pedestrians with paint it means i can just stop and have a chat with them, it just feels nice.
It’s fine as long as the cyclists aren’t fast and there’s enough space.
In low density areas that don’t see a huge amount of either traffic, there’s no reason not to mix them. It works just fine in plenty of places.
Still, the space is there.
I just want something more substantial than paint between a car and my toddler as I pedal pur way to daycare.