Independent Persian has received messages from protestors within Iran via Starlink satellite that describe a ‘war-like situation’. Amirhossein Miresmaeili reports
If it’s what the people of Iran want, then it’s no one else’s business to decide.
Fair enough though it’s difficult to determine what the people of Iran want being from a different country and culture half way around the world. Hope they figure it out and make it work.
I’d say from the huge numbers of people out protesting in the streets against the regime and winding up in body bags by the thousands because the regime is massacring them, that they probably want the downfall of the mullah.
And the reason it’s “difficult to determine” is because the regime cut off their internet access to isolate them from outside observers and increase the fog of war. People saying “it’s difficult to determine what they want” is precisely what the ayatollah intended to happen.
As for what they want to replace it with, that’s what a referendum is for. So I don’t get this “don’t give them a referendum, they’ll just choose wrong” mentality…
Well yes, but also because I speak a different language and I’m from a different culture and I have a limited amount of bandwidth to devote to foreigners while my own country is such a dumpster fire.
Because tens of thousands of people protesting and thousands of them getting murdered by the government is so culturally relative. It’s hard to say what that’s about, because of you know the language barrier.
Anyway, my point stands that if people from outside Iran can’t determine what the people of Iran want, then they shouldn’t be complaining about Iranians possibly having a democratic referendum so that they can decide collectively what sort of government to replace the current regime with…
If it’s what the people of Iran want, then it’s no one else’s business to decide.
People on lemmy are like “Boo, foreign intervention. No, don’t choose that way! Let me tell you what’s what.”
Fair enough though it’s difficult to determine what the people of Iran want being from a different country and culture half way around the world. Hope they figure it out and make it work.
I’d say from the huge numbers of people out protesting in the streets against the regime and winding up in body bags by the thousands because the regime is massacring them, that they probably want the downfall of the mullah.
And the reason it’s “difficult to determine” is because the regime cut off their internet access to isolate them from outside observers and increase the fog of war. People saying “it’s difficult to determine what they want” is precisely what the ayatollah intended to happen.
As for what they want to replace it with, that’s what a referendum is for. So I don’t get this “don’t give them a referendum, they’ll just choose wrong” mentality…
Well yes, but also because I speak a different language and I’m from a different culture and I have a limited amount of bandwidth to devote to foreigners while my own country is such a dumpster fire.
Because tens of thousands of people protesting and thousands of them getting murdered by the government is so culturally relative. It’s hard to say what that’s about, because of you know the language barrier.
Anyway, my point stands that if people from outside Iran can’t determine what the people of Iran want, then they shouldn’t be complaining about Iranians possibly having a democratic referendum so that they can decide collectively what sort of government to replace the current regime with…