One of my personal gripes with TV and movies is when the main characters go to a dance club, or a strip club, and have a conversation at a normal volume level. You can always tell from the look of the places that they’re the kind where you have to shout into the ear of the person next to you to have a hope at being understood.
That is called a “pub”.
Remember kids:
Oak and brass, A touch of class. Pine and chrome, Get yourself a six pack and drink it in your garage.
Music should be loud enough for you not to hear the next table conversation but be able to listen to yours
The rule is make it so loud that you only stick around while you’re actively buying and consuming overpriced drinks.
WHAT?
WHAT?
I don’t have a cat, maybe next door?
WHAT?
Like my local pub, then. That’s how I like it. Spoiler: they’re not ranking it in and agent millionaires, though.
Missed opportunity. They need a jukebox, where you put $5 in for it to drop the volume by 3 points for 10 minutes.
^what’s new pussy cat^
So not a bar.
Part of the reason why I hate going to bars. Another part is that the drinks are overpriced. I can get a decent handle and drink for a week for the same price as 3 drinks at a bar. No, the shitty music and oppressive atmosphere does not make the experience worth it.
Soundproof booths with a touchscreen for ordering drinks.
You should visit a Asian style kareoke bar.
Sound panels. They’re insanely effective. I put up a few at home, and now I complain about every place that doesn’t have them.
Mind linking to what you found to be insanely effective? Might be a dumb question, but not positive what “sound panels” are and acoustics can be pretty fickle from my experience.
Examples here
https://www.acoustimac.com/acoustic-panels/acoustic-panels-dmd-series
I’ve done a few with my own photos printed on them, they look like canvas art. Well, they basically are, but also filled with sound deadening insulation.
I will probably make some myself at custom sizes, it’s basically a frame filled with insulation from the big box store, wrapped in fabric.
The impact they have is reducing room reverb, which helps a lot for conversation when there are a lot of people in the room.
MVL (most valuable lemming) right here.
I’ll have to look into this. There’s a few spots around my home that I’d like to be less noisy.
Wonder how hard it’d be to take one of those cheaper canvas paintings off amazon or w/e and stuff em with some dampening
Nice, thanks for sharing, I’ll have a look!
In the past, I’ve had aspirations to build a proper studio with acoustic treatments from somewhere like realtraps.com. Nowadays, there are VSTs that do a decent job of removing room reverb from a recording, so I’d be less inclined to go all out on expensive room treatments.
However, less expensive treatments just to make a room more pleasant for conversation would certainly be worthwhile. I also like the idea of making them more decorative like you mentioned.
They’re likely acoustic dampening foam panels. You can get a similar, but lesser, effect with texturing the walls and ceilings. It’s surprising how echoey a room is without it.
BILLION DOLLAR IDEA: A BAR, BUT YOU CAN HEAR THE PEOPLE YOU’RE WITH
WHAT!? TELL ME AFTER THE NOISE DIES DOWN.
meanwhile when the noise actually does die down: SO THAT’S WHY I NEED A NEW HEMROID CREAM.
Back in the late 90s, at a seedy bar with my tech-head buddies, we snagged a booth/table with a crappy half blown speaker that was pumping music so loud you couldn’t hear ANYTHING. My buddy whips out his multi tool and proceeds to stand up and snip the wire going to the speaker. An amazing idea that I’ve really never had the chance to replicate, but inspired me to carry a multi tool a lot more.
Will’s Pub in Orlando is such a place. At least it was. I haven’t been to Orlando in years.
These ‘factory look’ restaurants ,with high ceilings with all the pipes and ducts exposed, can fuck right off. Then they pump in music so everyone has to shout, adding to the ‘ambiance’. That shit is the laugh track of social interaction.
It’s even crazier that office spaces are designed like that. And then managers are suprised that everyone wears headphones in the office.
In one place I worked, the ambient sound was so loud that not only did everyone wear headphones, but the best way to chat with someone who was 3-4 desks away was to type to them while continuing to listen to whatever you had on your headphones. Of course, the place was so absurdly loud because the management insisted on an open office plan with everyone in the office so that we’d more easily be able to chat informally to foster new ideas.
while saying you have to be in the office because of the interaction
Every minute they save by walking over to your desk for a quick question is lost 10x over by the constant distraction of an open office plan.
Finally someone who agrees. Plus they charge so much for some tiny burger. Get a ceiling grid with those acoustic panels using the burger profit. The polished concrete floor never helps too.
I went to a club that boomers go to the other day. Carpet, clean toilets, soft lighting, and meals that cost less because their profit comes from poker machines. Hell yeah brutha
The burger is also on a wood chopping board. We want plates!
We have supper clubs here, which are apparently highly regional… as in I never saw one when I was more than a few hours out of my region, and that was several years of looking. Meanwhile nearly every town here has at least one.
It’s mostly boomers, tho you’ll find considerable millennial representation these days as well (not typically much younger people). A nice low ceiling, dim light, carpeted place that expects you to sit for a drink or two and socialize before food, take your order long before you are seated at your table sort of thing. Slow, quieter, intimate, and so popular they are gathering spots for old people. Also the food is usually killer, and/or stuff you can’t get elsewhere, for decent small town prices. No poker machines tho.
Ah sounds better than a dive bar!
Oh, you don’t need the music to need to shout. The high ceiling achieves that by itself. Echo, space to fill, or something. Not to knowledgeable about acoustics.
I really wish they made restaurants with low ceilings. You take the tallest people who are likely to come, you add maybe 30 cm, and that’s more than high enough, right? No, they’ve gotta have ceilings so high they could genuinely fit two floors in the one they have. It’s a waste of space, too.
Indeed. It is like drinking in a sweatshop.
Absolutely. When I go to a bar or restaurant, I prefer a place that doesn’t look like a co-working space. Also, when I see anyone using a laptop in there, I’m out.
Just get everyone to bring headphones that work as headsets and start a group call. You can get a decent pair for like $10
I’m at an industry get together right now at an event space that is all concrete walls and has music. Taking a break coz I’m tired of shouting
