• LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    I think you’re misunderstanding the Cheney’s support.

    Dick and Liz (and Bush and others) aren’t supporting Harris because she aligns with them or they like her. They’re doing it because trump is so heinous, literally anything is better than a second trump term.

    They don’t want Harris; they’ve just reached the conclusion trump will destroy the GOP. And they’re right.

    As Lindsay Graham said in 2016:

    If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed…and we will deserve it.

    This is self-preservation.

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      I don’t give af what their reasons are Dick Cheney is one of the worst people on the planet. It is easy not to stand by him. But I’m fine with voting third party this point. I don’t want to be allies with liberals who will throw anyone under the bus to retain comfort.

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        Nobody is ‘standing by him’. Hitler liked dogs. Am I supposed to hate dogs because Hitler ‘stood by’ them?

        I couldn’t give less of a fuck who the Cheneys support. Their opinions don’t factor into my choices at all.

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          This whole topic is the same people who make excuses for why the Cheney endorsements are good (or at a minimum irrelevant) saying how David Duke’s endorsement should make people supporting Jill Stein think twice.

          Jill Stein is a grifter and a spoiler working to advance conservative causes, but the hypocrisy here is breathtaking.

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            Yep! Insane hypocrisy around these parts.

            And anyone who doesn’t agree with the echo chamber, is a “Trumper” or works “for the Russians” or my personal fav, “posting/commenting in bad faith.” lol

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        “I don’t like that one of the worst people in the world is advocating for a candidate, and I’m not going tk vote for that candidate because of this- even though *the other candidates is objectively far worse than the guy I hate”

        Is how I interpret that.

        Throw your vote away if you want. Just don’t whine here when trump wins because of you.

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          Trump’s rise is literally because of Dems lack of action results for poor and working class people. Harris is closer to him on Policy than anyone else. Even Trump said so at the debate, and she is still building the wall. You guys don’t have Trump as much as you claim.

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            4 months ago

            You literally just posted a topic about Trump beating Harris in a battleground state poll. And another about good news for Trump. Along with a stream of other posts that seems curated to talk about bad signs for Harris.

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                You don’t just post random political news from across a range of topics, you post stuff that talks about Harris being weak.

                If you were confident Harris would win, why would it be interesting that a poll showed her down in a crucial state? Why would it be interesting that fewer Democrats are registered to vote? She’s supposedly got it in the bag, so none of these things would matter.

                I think Trump winning is a very real possibility. It looks a lot more likely than 2020 and that was a razor thin victory.

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                  I post political news articles that I find interesting. Has nothing to do with the fact that I think Trump will lose.

                  So you said him winning is a possibility. But do you think he will win? I don’t.

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                    A reasonable political observer does not have enough information to make a prediction either way at this point. It’s not even a “probably Harris will win, but Trump still has a shot”, it’s an actual toss up.

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                This election hinges on a hair. Everyone who’s not got a bridge to sell you is saying that, and you think you can predict the outcome?

                I’m not buying any bridges. I don’t know who’s going to win, and neither do you or anyone else.

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                    There’s a resort in Arizona that once bought a bridge. Maybe you can sell them another…

                    Edit: I think you know it’s too close to call which is why you’re doing your damndest to get any one to not vote for Harris.