This is an old article from 2024, how on earth did I miss this? Do we know if any work using arthrobots to deliver any kind of successful therapy is in development?

Thank you!

Also it’s strongly evoking memories of Tibetan bardo state! 🫣

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    21 days ago

    It seems it might be worth noting in scientific experiments that the act of observation can change a thing’s behavior, but I am not a scientist!

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      I’m 90% sure that saying comes from quantum physics, where the tools used to make measurements also destroy the subject in the process. But that’s just how it goes when you’re trying to study the smallest things in the universe. Looking at stuff doesn’t do anything, but “observing” an atom by blasting it apart does.

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        not necessarily destroy, but if you want to check a property of a particle as small as a photon you kind of have to affect it. For example if you measure where it’s going, that probably involves measuring how it affects a magnetic field, but that field would also affect its position or smth.

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          Did it? Idk I’m not a physicist so I can’t tell precisely what scientists mean by “detect”, “measure”, “view”, “observe” and I get sleepy reading their papers. Either way, the measurement problem is a quantum mechanics thing specifically.

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            They just set up a projector and ran the light through slitted screens. Some light behaved as individual particles and some as waves, while being observed. They didn’t blast it or smash it.

            Which is interesting, since everything observable came into existence through pretty violent blasts and smashes.

            Edit: now that I think of it, projecting light is blasting it through space, I suppose.

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            Observed really just means observed. It has no fancy “scientific” meaning.

            I think the reason people get stumped on this is because a lot of popsci articles treat the wavefunction as a physical object and thus its collapse as a physical event.

            They then get confused as to how simply observing and becoming consciously aware of something can physically alter the system and cause a physical “collapse.”

            But Copenhagen (the orthodox interpretation) treats the wavefunction as merely an accounting of your knowledge of how the system was initially prepared and the collapse as just bookkeeping of new knowledge you acquired of its state at a later time.

            The collapse is therefore not treated as a physical event at all; you learn something about the system through measuring it and then update your bookkeeping according to the new knowledge (“collapse” it). It’s a formal accounting and not a physical event

            If one believes the collapse represents a physical event, this is called a physical collapse theory and you can prove that these must necessarily deviate from the empirical predictions of orthodox quantum mechanics, and so Copenhagen does not uphold the collapse to represent a physical event (in the sense that it represents a physical perturbation to the system) at all but is instead epistemic (dealing witha change to the observer’s subjective knowledge).

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          19 days ago

          I think professor dave has good videos about that, since we’re kinda approaching quantum mysticism territory here. He’s a bit confrontational, but he does support palestine for what it’s worth.

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            19 days ago

            Thanks I saved your post for next downtime I can watch. Unfortunately I ignored chores so that may take a minute. I assume it will need watching as opposed to listening while catching up.