Not a sarcastic question, btw… the historical record perfectly shows how your ilk views us working class folk - after all, Marxism-Leninism has always been the ideology of the factory owner.
Socialism isn’t equalitarianism. In Cuba, the working classes do control the means of production and the state. Continuing to pretend I “despise the working class” because I support real, existing worker power and don’t belittle their protracted struggle to protect it isn’t convincing anyone.
The bit where you implied the existence of inequality meant the existence of class. The party is made up of the working classes, they are not classless. They aren’t a distinct class, but instead a part of the working classes. Instituting small amounts of controlled private property in order to help with their tourism industry is not “taking to capitalism like ducks to water as soon as they get the chance,” Cuba has been socialist for a long time and the recent private concessions are due to struggles from the blockade.
I love the working class, that’s why I support the working classes that have taken power around the world and direct the economy to suit the needs of the people, rather than redefine words and imagine an ever-purer and ever-nonexistent version of socialism in my head to compare them to.
existence of inequality meant the existence of class.
Again - which part of this…
The most basic requirements of socialism are that the working class is in control of the state,means of production.
…contains the term “equalitarianism,” tankie?
Do tell, tankie… how does this inequality exist if the working class are in control of the means of production?
Your concept of socialism is anti-socialist.
Why should we treat you any different from all the other anti-socialists?
The party is made up of the working classes,
Oh really? These party elites you simp for are mere members of the working class, eh tankie?
When it comes to modernising feudal power relations for secular industrialisation you Marxist-Leninists have outdone liberal capitalists by every metric except longevity.
Your point on there being some level of inequality in Cuba is basically a point about equalitarianism. The inequality exists because Cuba is a very poor country, and as such there is uneven development and distribution, even if tje working classes are in power. Yes, the PCC is a working class party.
You have no points, you just redefine words and hurl petty insults. It’s painfully boring, especially considering your line of logic is being used right now to justify bombing Venezuela. You despise the working class and the power it builds as it actually exists in real life, while you continue to paint an ever purer vision in your head to beat the global south with like a club. You’re an imperialist first and foremost.
Correct, the fact that people are paid differently for different job positions that vary in complexity and importance is a factor of development. In a higher, more developed stage, this disparity will shrink, but the first obstacle to that is ending the blockade, not overthrowing socialism. You can repeat your mantra like you’re casting a spell, but your words ring hollow as you continue to manufacture consent for the US empire to overthrow Cuba’s democratically run socialost system as it’s doing right now with Venezuela.
If the only thing you recognize is purity, then you alienate yourself from real working class struggle. You have the kind of attitude of someone who doesn’t actually organize in real life, because the only things that pass your purity test are ideas.
In a higher, more developed stage, this disparity will shrink,
Oh, so the closer Cuba gets to Marxist-Leninist Second Coming - oops, I meant to say, “communism” - all work will suddenly be equal in complexity and importance, huh?
Did you learn that from Marx? Really?
manufacture consent for the US empire to overthrow Cuba
What’s with the sweat, tankie? I don’t mean this as a compliment… but this level of desperation is uncommon in your kind in my experience.
Is your loyalty to “The Party” not as pure as you’d want it to be?
Really? So Cuba’s party elites live like the rest of Cuba’s working class, eh?
FTFY.
No ifs, tankie.
No buts.
No ands.
As unserious as a (supposed) “socialist” that despises the working class?
Stop being a dick.
It does not make your arguments better, and it makes you look like a child.
Does that turn you on, tankie?
Not a sarcastic question, btw… the historical record perfectly shows how your ilk views us working class folk - after all, Marxism-Leninism has always been the ideology of the factory owner.
lol
Yes… lol!
Socialism isn’t equalitarianism. In Cuba, the working classes do control the means of production and the state. Continuing to pretend I “despise the working class” because I support real, existing worker power and don’t belittle their protracted struggle to protect it isn’t convincing anyone.
Which part of this…
…contains the term “equalitarianism,” tankie?
Do tell… why do these (supposedly) “classless” party elites you worship so much take to capitalism like ducks to water as soon as they get the chance?
Again… why do you despise the working class?
The bit where you implied the existence of inequality meant the existence of class. The party is made up of the working classes, they are not classless. They aren’t a distinct class, but instead a part of the working classes. Instituting small amounts of controlled private property in order to help with their tourism industry is not “taking to capitalism like ducks to water as soon as they get the chance,” Cuba has been socialist for a long time and the recent private concessions are due to struggles from the blockade.
I love the working class, that’s why I support the working classes that have taken power around the world and direct the economy to suit the needs of the people, rather than redefine words and imagine an ever-purer and ever-nonexistent version of socialism in my head to compare them to.
Again - which part of this…
…contains the term “equalitarianism,” tankie?
Do tell, tankie… how does this inequality exist if the working class are in control of the means of production?
Your concept of socialism is anti-socialist.
Why should we treat you any different from all the other anti-socialists?
Oh really? These party elites you simp for are mere members of the working class, eh tankie?
When it comes to modernising feudal power relations for secular industrialisation you Marxist-Leninists have outdone liberal capitalists by every metric except longevity.
Your point on there being some level of inequality in Cuba is basically a point about equalitarianism. The inequality exists because Cuba is a very poor country, and as such there is uneven development and distribution, even if tje working classes are in power. Yes, the PCC is a working class party.
You have no points, you just redefine words and hurl petty insults. It’s painfully boring, especially considering your line of logic is being used right now to justify bombing Venezuela. You despise the working class and the power it builds as it actually exists in real life, while you continue to paint an ever purer vision in your head to beat the global south with like a club. You’re an imperialist first and foremost.
Right, right… it has absolutely nothing to do with the existence of a party elite that takes care of itself first.
Riiiiight.
Again… why do you despise the working class, tankie?
Correct, the fact that people are paid differently for different job positions that vary in complexity and importance is a factor of development. In a higher, more developed stage, this disparity will shrink, but the first obstacle to that is ending the blockade, not overthrowing socialism. You can repeat your mantra like you’re casting a spell, but your words ring hollow as you continue to manufacture consent for the US empire to overthrow Cuba’s democratically run socialost system as it’s doing right now with Venezuela.
If the only thing you recognize is purity, then you alienate yourself from real working class struggle. You have the kind of attitude of someone who doesn’t actually organize in real life, because the only things that pass your purity test are ideas.
Oh, so the closer Cuba gets to Marxist-Leninist Second Coming - oops, I meant to say, “communism” - all work will suddenly be equal in complexity and importance, huh?
Did you learn that from Marx? Really?
What’s with the sweat, tankie? I don’t mean this as a compliment… but this level of desperation is uncommon in your kind in my experience.
Is your loyalty to “The Party” not as pure as you’d want it to be?