Anyone else getting these donation ads? Was it just shoved onto an update by the Lemmy devs, or is this coming from the instance admins? It doesn’t seem to show on clean browser sessions to lemmy.ca
Anyone else getting these donation ads? Was it just shoved onto an update by the Lemmy devs, or is this coming from the instance admins? It doesn’t seem to show on clean browser sessions to lemmy.ca
What app do you use with it?
What got me hooked on lemmy was wefwef/voyager which is basically a reddit Apollo clone.
Mbin is also an alternative. More transparency: https://joinmbin.org/servers
PieFed slants too much on the moderator side while simplifying the user experience to the point that you can’t even easily work with the modlog.
I’m curious, as someone who’s mostly only looked from the outside, what “slants too much on the moderator side” means.
I’m referring to transparency features being like seeing who’s downvoting and upvoting comments or easy and relevant access to the modlog and comments getting removed. Piefed little effort to making the modlog transparent and hides upvoting and downvoting completely (they basically had to make up a new concern for it, “voting privacy”, but its an excuse that allows for the manipulation of the voting system and lack of accountability for already pseudonymous accounts) while also implementing a reputation system that is asking to be gamed. It puts more responsibility and power onto mods, admins, and devs, and it’s the second one that’s going to be more frequently exercised over conversations.
Basically, does it allow users to police themselves and the content they want to see, or does it give it to the people behind the curtains?
The “private voting” system has been removed months ago. Nowadays Piefed user can either decide to federate their votes (which can then been seen by lemvotes or other tools) or keep them local
Doesn’t matter, the philosophy is still there. I will never expect them to be as transparent as Mbin, who provides voting transparency thus proving that the whole concept of voting privacy is bust and a power play. There is no epidemic of people abusing voting transparency that the “voting privacy” advocates might have argued, never mind that it is also false sense of security when it is completely visible to the server instance admins.
Mbin doesn’t provide transparency for downvotes
So by your logic, just because they don’t provide all available forms of transparency means they don’t provide any? You are just searching for a “gotcha” when it isn’t even a counterpoint.
As to why,
That particular exception exists, it doesn’t take too much effort to find out why: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/1115 Among other things, Mbin was threatened to be blocked by Lemmy on default for part of its functionality by the Lemmy devs, and melroy decided to succumb to the pressure rather than split the fediverse on this issue. Honestly, I find the main Lemmy devs to be compromised given how much they want narratives to head in a particular political direction and the tool that lack of transparency on downvotes provides for that in regards to shaping visibility and discussion within threads. It wasn’t like that for a long time, but you knew that.
I didn’t say they don’t provide any, I said that their transparency isn’t complete.
If someone wants to have full votes transparency nowadays, using a Lemmy instance that federates lemvotes provides transparency on both up and downvotes, while Mbin only gives upvotes.
Not sure if Mbin support lemvotes, but even if it does, then it’s similar to Lemmy: you have to use lemvotes to have full transparency