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Fascism is back like in the late 1920s, we all know what happened right after.
NGL, I dont know what happens after this time. It seems like the entire west is turning to fascism so I’m not really sure who’d fight it
What gets me is that it’s all a response to the generally centre right governments focusing on business for the last 45 years. Government has forgotten about the individual in the west. And the people have had enough.
Why then, do they turn further right? This should be bonanza time for the left.
- Far right parties are happy to tell lies to get into power, so the people hear what they want to hear.
- 100 years is too long for living memory to survive.
The answer is the conservative propaganda machine, and the USA is a prime example.
Everything that made America “great” post WW2 were “socialist” driven labour, regulatory movements that decreased wealth inequality, improved economic mobility and housing security, increased quality of life and education, held corporate criminals accountable, etc, etc.
Wealthy sociopaths took that personally, and have spent the last 55 years destroying all of them; mainly through their ownership of media and dissemination of propaganda/disinformation, destruction of education. They chose fascism over improving the species and civilisation. They are our great filter, if we let them succeed.
They’re creating a system in which millions have to die for them to win and dozens have to die for us to win. I know which odds I’m taking in that bet.
Yeah, but thanks to their control of the media, they’ve also created a system where millions will leap to defend them while demonizing anyone who criticizes them. When things get truly dire, they’ll just point at some random demographic and say “it’s their fault!” and their followers will eat it up.
I’d love for them to face consequences for their actions, but going by history they’ll keep getting away with things until an ally backstabs them for power or the regime has eaten itself and fully fallen.
That’s true but as the saying goes “cut off the head of the snake and the body dies”. Eventually followers have no one left to follow whereas the other group has no real leaders. Once enough realize it’s a numbers game the outcome is easy enough to predict. The situation just needs to be viewed in a slightly different way than most people are conditioned to view it in.
That may be a big perspective shift but most of the constraints to our perceived available responses come from the desire to continue living within the confines of a social contract that is rapidly deteriorating. Most people haven’t begun to feel that directly yet but once they do the situation could change very quickly.
I’m not sure anyone really fought it last time. The wars didn’t start until Germany started invading other nations which is what started the shooting.
The US didn’t even enter the war until it was bombed.
“We fought fascism” is a bit of retroactive justification IMHO. We didn’t, we were just defending ourselves from fascists who attacked first.
If Hitler stayed in Germany… Who knows?
Yeah, history doesn’t provide much help in this regard because fascism was stopped by the Axis losing a war. That’s not happening this time.
It’ll be the communist in China who will fight fascism. But even China’s claim as being a communist is questionable since the 1990’s.
Surely the fascists pretending to be communist will save us from the fascists pretend to be democratic!
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
Don’t say that too loud, they might find a reason to send you off to something like alligator alcatraz once they’re in power.
Apparently, those people mysteriously disappeared.
Don’t let them get to you. Its like 1000 people doing this. We can change it still.
I wish I believed you. I try to keep my defeatism to myself but the overwhelming majority of people around me IRL are going around like nothing is happening, ignoring current events in the name of self care. Must be fucking nice.
Yeah, I feel you. I’m ruzzian, and I’m mostly sit in my parents’ home, cause all around me are dumb as fuck
You can see what’s happening in the USA, Germany. That’s really what you want for yourself? Again?
Yes. Unfortunately people are that dumb.
I have no part in this. Neither do my peers. Lies, deception, easy answers to complex questions and a lack in education are doing this.
Pretty much all the adults from WWII are dead. Notice we’re doing the same stupid shit? Gilded Age wealth gap, tariffs, fascism, heading for a depression, etc.?
Do better, Germany
It’s the scars of reunification. The east has a lot of people left behind.
Yes, it should have been done much better
Eastern Germany is like the US South in that regard.
Then what is Bavaria?
Edit: I guess Bavaria is analogous to Texas more than the mid or deep south.
Having spent a ton of time in Bavaria, yeah, it’s closer to Texas or the Midwest than the South.
Sorry can’t. Police and courts will stop anyone from taking out nazis themselves.
Danke, Fotzenfritz!
Der wollte doch die Faschos halbieren, oder?
Yo, läuft super.
The strategy laid out in Foundations of Geopolitics in 1997 is being implemented
FUCK
Is there any context to add which makes it less appalling than it seems?
There isn’t a federal election until 2029, so these polls really don’t matter.
that is not true. it is a snapshot of current voter mentality. if this doesn’t turn around it’s only going to grow and get worse. that’s what this is useful for.
Right and the mentality has almost 4 years to change and a lot of things can happen in 4 years. Which is why the current mentality really doesn’t matter.
You were doing great. I agree with you on the facts, your conclusion is baffling though. The polls don’t matter right this second, but mentality absolutely does. What planet do you live on where cause and effect have no relation?
Well, feel free to worry about the polls every week then.
Here is an articles that explains why these weekly “fake elections” polls might actually be harmful to democracy (German).
I am confused does thise poll matters or not? In your first comment you said in doesn’t, on your latest you are saying that those polls hurt democracy so that mean it has an effect and that it matter
Poor effort. Neither subject change relates to what has been said.
And just humor your daftness, there’s actual studies (global) that show indifference and obliviousness to current events are more harmful to democracy than any other single factor
It rarely change unless there is an unexpected event
Based on my conversation with some Germans, even if afd did have the most offices held, they wouldn’t have the majority. The other parties would tend to work together and afd would tend to be on their own.
This is only partially correct. The CDU (conservatives) has growing faction in it that wants to “normalize” relations with AfD and enter a coalition with them. Steigbügelhalter is gonna halt Steigbügel.
A party not having the majority doesn’t stop fascism from taking over as Germany well knows.
Not a guarantee, just a qualifier to show it’s not a “done deal” to save someone a degree of dread.
I really hope France has nukes in Germany this go around.
