Summary
Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.
Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).
The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.
The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.
it’s not that complex, i just think that everyone who voted for trump is stupid. Or at the very least, incredibly ignorant. And the facts back me up on this one.
literally how, they live in delusion, They do not live in reality. They think “illegal immigrants” aren’t here of legal status. Which is factually untrue. They think democrat cities are a hellhole, and they think they have more gun violence than red states, which is also untrue. In fact large urban cities tend to have the lowest per capita gun violence rates. They think kamala harris is a literal communistic fascist trying to overthrow the government and steal power from biden.
They also think that jan 6th was a guided tour of the capitol, and when presented with information will tell you it was either “FBI agents” or “antifa”
They can’t even tell you what caused the inflation in 2020-2024.
These people are akin to dementia patients. How are we supposed to understand them?
according to what, and on what timescales? Unemployment is still relatively low, and crime rates have been trending down since post pandemic. It seems like things might be moderately worse, mostly because of inflation, but that’s about it.
it’s literally been one election cycle. If this is our standard of proof, this has already happened before, a few times probably.
and who is responsible for this? Republicans, the people we just elected. We had two border bills under biden, title 42 for the rest of the term, and a late executive order to actually do something after the congress failed twice.
technically it’s the asylum immigration causing this strain, since they aren’t full citizens yet, or kicked out for not passing asylum court, but of course, nobody wants to pay a few million dollars in the fed to fix this problem outright. Although there are problems with things like NIMBYism and people not voting for things like funding education, which has been a republican talking point for ages so there’s that.
i’m not, and never will be, even if i had the money it wouldn’t be a problem for me. I hate being around people. So this will never be a particular strong suit or problem point for me.
we also have to ascribe some blame to people who simply do not want to move out of the working class as well. Not to double back and be classist here, but coal mining? Seriously? That industry is dead! Get over it and get another job already! Oh what’s that, your entire county is out of work? Sounds like a governmental failure. They should’ve done better.
This is a really big problem with republican populism right now.
and unfortunately, they don’t do themselves many favors half the time either. It is the rural voter block that backs trump mostly at the end of the day. They also don’t do themselves much of a favor calling dems pedos and child rapists, or communist authoritarians either. I’m certain not all of them do it, and i’m open to the ones who don’t. Though if they aren’t open to my existence, i’m not going to psyop myself out of existence here unfortunately. My bare minimum here is living in reality, and not being delusional. If you can meet that bar, we will get along well, if not, oh well, gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet i suppose.
not saying i disagree, but please do some polling about how many rural people would like to move to urban areas for job opportunities.
right wing populism.
you mean during the great depression? The single worst economic collapse, ever.
you cannot extend empathy to that which does not request it.
like ultimately, i’m sympathetic to this, but the US doesn’t need this right now, it needs a reality check.
Would you say the same to the black and Hispanic voters who elected Trump as being stupid? Look at Europe and they have also have the same far-right problem. De-industrialised Northern France, Eastern Sweden and East Germany are voting the far-right. You can’t just tell people to reskill when there are no alternatives offered. You can’t also expect them to move. There are still people living in Detroit, right? The problem with Western governments and its citizens is they are bad with offering alternatives and essentially abandoned the working-class. Just look at Liverpool-- they were the second busiest port city in Britain but experienced economic and population decline in the latter half of 20th century. Despite all that, the government of Liverpool has been effective in investing in their communities, attracting businesses, and revitalising their economy and city. And they have always been proud multicultural, has strong working-class background who always voted for Labour, and voted to Remain in the EU unlike its similarly neighbouring de-industralised Northern English counties.
Sure, there are racists who voted Remain, Trump, Sweden Democrats and Le Pen, but liberals need to realise that you can call others racists or misogynists if they haven’t offered alternatives. I found it laughable that anti-Trumper social and news bubble keep making character assassinations, but rarely I see posts highlighting how Democrats would do better economically than Trump (and frankly, Harris’ economic platform isn’t very appealing compared to Trump which is why I understand why people voted for him). Otherwise, those who are left to fend for themselves are feeling vulnerable and lost in a dark place are desperate to hug a dark embrace from the allure of easy promises. I’m amazed you dismissed FDR’s quote about economically insecure folks being the ingredients of a dictatorship. It is true then and true now. It just so happens that I am listening to a podcast and the main criticism on both liberal and left alike is the grown hubris of appearing know-it-all and taking down the working-class, either intentionally or not. The sooner the left, liberals and progressives get out of their bubble, look at the problem at close distance, and search for others for inspiration (Liverpool’s revitalisation is a success for example), then the sooner they would win back the next election. There is a reason why many electorates sat down because they were not inspired. It’s not enough to tell other eligible voters of “tRoLlEy pRoBlEm” which Lemmy and the left drool over. Offer tangible solutions. Blame inflation as much as anyone wants, but the fact of the matter is that Democrats haven’t done enough to alleviate the effects which does not make much of the people “feel” the growing economy.