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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407
Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”
The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”
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Ya know, this “guy” goes by the name Roger and wears a suit and tie - why I bet he uses the “mens” bathroom… but how do we even know he’s “male”? No seriously, how do we know he’s not secretly just using the “mens” to try to assault/molest/peep on other alleged “men”?
I mean, if he’s defining “male” then what follows, clearly, are inspections. He should not be exempt from them but, if he truly has nothing to hide, should be willing to be first in line.
wHaT ArE yOu HiDiNg “Roger”?
He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”
bill attempts to stop something that was never occuring
Holy shit, it worked and it hasn’t even been signed yet.
I don’t know about y’all but I don’t remember Kamala or Biden directly spreading information in favor of lgbtq+ values. That’s mostly been Hollywood. There might be some lobbying going on and some shoulder rubbing, but… I mean, I have yet to even hear Biden say the word trans in any real context unless I’m wrong, here. Their stance is less a stance and more of a “you’re human, you’re cool too”.
But the scene does seem to be that the Republican party can just claim they stopped Kaijus and Holy wars and their fanbases will eat it up, so…
“Hey, my podcast said you didn’t exist yesterday.”
…sorry to disappoint you.
Imagine if we had a senate that was focused on real political and social issues instead of who has the “right” to go to the bathroom. Fucking nonsense.
No-one is “replacing biological sex” silly.
Gender is different from sex. It’s related, but separate.
They’re not even replacing anything, they’re just adding to it. Why do ya’ll even care. Life is already so fucking miserable, even worse when you feel like you’re not even in the right body. Fucking help people. Why is it that seemingly every politician just hates people? Why go out of your wait to be a representative just to make people miserable.
If centrists wanted to be upset about bigotry against trans people, they could have started when they were blaming trans people for Harris losing. They could have started when their candidates were parroting Republican “boys in girls’ sports” bigotry in their own ads.
The indignation here rings hollow because like all the pretended morals of centrism, it is hollow.
For the first time in history we had a president address trans issues in a state of the union. No democratic politicians have enacted legislation against Trans - in fact quite the opposite. But here you stand grandstanding again.
Get over blaming centrists for all your problems and enjoy the next four years
It’s the only options we got in a FPTP. If you think not participating absolves you of any moral agency then you are just naive. I never said the democrats were champions of trans issues. I said steps were being taken in the right direction. They were very small steps, but it was something. Democracy demands vigilance and active participation. Its only as strong as it’s participating individuals. The same goes for any other polity, so don’t delude yourself in thinking that we are immune to corruption in any alternate system either.
Tell me, how happy were you to see the bigotry you agree with at all times repeated by candidates in your own party?
Like what? Got any examples?
Edit: I see just down votes. Anyone got examples??
https://youtu.be/TKBJoj4XyFc?t=714
Colin Allred and Vicente Gonzalez, in their own words.
Edit: I see just down votes. Anyone got examples??
My examples were posted before you made this edit. And you are whining about exactly one downvote.
I remember these now. I find those two candidates and their messaging despicable. However I should caveat: these are two small town local races. They run in stark contrast to the messaging from the President.
I understand the Dnc is a big party tent. In an ideal world I’d love to see a true progressive party take hold in America. The DNC needs a thorough shake up. Im feeling pretty glum about it atm tbh
However I should caveat: these are two small town local races
Allred was running for US Senate. Gonzalez was running to represent TX-34 in the US House of Representatives. I gave you their names and you can use google.
I understand the Dnc is a big party tent.
Yeah, big enough for anti-trans hate and not one but two Cheneys. But fuck progressives.
In an ideal world I’d love to see a true progressive party take hold in America.
And an ideal world is your prerequisite since it means shutting out progressives until that happens.
I personally didn’t shut down progressives. When I say ideal world I’m just stating my preference. As in I’d really like to see a progressive party. Non the other way around.
Not the dangerous radical gender ideology of trying to be happy
Is there any argument for trans people getting their rights removed?
Bigotry
People dont hate trans people just to hate trans people. They have reason, even if they are bad
Bullshit. It comes from a simple disgust reflex. Everything else is post-hoc justification.
Name one.
And specifically, christian nationalism.
That was what i was asking
One argument i have seen against acknowledging the existence of trans people is that people will be tricked into changing their gender
Its not a good argument, but it exists.
It’s bullshit and you’re either a sucker or a liar for playing along, pretending you don’t know what subtext is.
Might as well define the Earth as flat and the Moon as green cheese while he’s at it.
Do these fuckers have literally nothing else to do than wage wars against reality?
Yes because if they admit reality, none of them should be in power.
They might try. They’ve already tried to legislate a definition of pi to equal exactly 3.
No, I refuse to believe that’s ever hap-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill
Motherfucker…
Maybe a strategy to distract the masses while they and their
supportershandlers steal the country blind.It keeps us divided. It misdirects the anger of their base towards something other than how badly they are being fucked.
Never attribute that to malice which can be adequately explained by stupidity… Unless it comes from the mouth of a Republican politician.
Not stating anything in the article isn’t true, but wouldn’t it be better to post a less biased source? That website has a very obvious bias. The other day, someone used motherjones as a source. I know Lemmy is extremely left leaning, but left wing rags shouldn’t be used as legitimate sources.
The headline alone should be enough to avoid that website. No one is trying to erase them. That’s hyperbole.
Setting aside the mind, it is a biological fact that approximately 1 in 1700 people are born with both sexual organs.
They’re supposed to just, die?
Intersex people occur at the same rate as redheads. This is the same thing as a proposal to kill all redheads for being redheads
This is really fascinating. I had to idea. Would love to read more on this if you have any recommendations
But gingers don’t have a soul so I guess it’s fine?
What seems like a rhetorical question to you does not to a fascist.
We need media stepping up the messaging that the Right is infatuated with the genitals of people, especially children. Outside of maybe your Dr. (and/or partner), nobody should be talking about, or caring about your genitals to the degree the Right is in this pervy/pedo crusade of late.
The right owns the media. The revolution will not be televised.
They own the traditional media, but not the hundreds of thousands of YouTube and TikTok influencers with millions of followers each.
The revolution will be vlogged.
I kind of feel like all this spawned from some hot trans-girl turning down one of these shitstains and they’ve never let it go.
To be honest it’s probably all the hot trans-girls turning them down, like there’s a conspiracy or something, but hot trans-girls just don’t like conservative assholes.
Man, I hope all the trans who said they wouldn’t vote for Harris because she didn’t talk about them are feeling great about the new government that will be in control during the next few years!
This is what centrists think solidarity looks like.
You gotta work with the system you have, you can disagree with it, in the meantime you’re still working against your interests of you decide to not vote for the lesser of two evils.
You gotta work with the system you have, you can disagree with it,
Yeah, I saw how that worked out here on lemmy.
in the meantime you’re still working against your interests of you decide to not vote for the lesser of two evils.
Already voted for Harris. This is about your gross vindictive glee at the misfortune of others.
There is no glee. I’m sorry it seems that way to you. There is a lot of frustration going around. Playing the blame game gets us nowhere. I was part of the problem too blaming non committal lefties. I’m sorry for my past attitude. I’m just not convinced that block has any interest in making change anymore. I think we’re all miserable at the moment. We all have friends or know people that will be personally affected in the next four years so there is absolutely no glee here (at least for me)
I was part of the problem too blaming non committal lefties.
You. Still. Are. That’s the entire fucking point of your Schadenfreude-laden gloating that trans people are going to suffer, just on the off chance that some of them stayed home.
I’m not gloating. I’ve stated as much numerous times. I’m pretty glum about it. I’m disappointed in the DNC overall.
Try to have a convo without getting so bitter all the time. I’m not your enemy.
This is surely going to lower the price of eggs.
When women are factory farmed baby makers…oh you meant those eggs.
We really need to start saying that these people want their own family members killed. It seems to be the only thing that can get some people to listen
