• Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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    Learning a foreign language and runing the fuck out of US is also an option. You don’t need risk everything just to better a country where 60% of population hates you and rest is barely neutral.

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      Need ideas for countries. What’s a good place I could move to that has decent public transit infrastructure, free healthcare and good welfare/retirement benefits, cheap gigabit internet, and legal cannabis concentrates?

      (Last one is most important because I literally cannot sleep without weed; prescription sleeping pills are awful and do not work effectively for me. Also flower is a non-option cause the wife hates the smell and I want to be considerate.)

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          Lets just wait what we Germans vote in 2029. Not sure CDU will kill off the AfD (i actually believe they will team up).

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            2029 may be too late. If things don’t turn around after the midterms, I’m leaving the country.

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              The good thing about EU citizenship is that you can just hop between EU countries if the one you live in turns fascist, but you need to become the citizen of an EU country first.

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          The Netherlands allows cannabis concentrates now? Last I checked it was only flower, and you still can only buy it in “coffee shops”.

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              Did some limited research and it seems like no other country except Uruguay meets my needs. In those other countries, it seems like you have to make your own (illegally). Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but it appears that you can’t just walk into a shop and buy shatter, crumble, wax, a preloaded distillate vape, etc.

              I don’t have the skills nor the fancy equipment to make my own concentrates, so I guess I’m going to die here in the US… I don’t want to have to go back to the days of taking several prescriptions for my various physical and mental issues. I just want to be able to freely hit the vape anytime and anywhere, and not have to look over my shoulder every time I do so. Those days are far behind me and I never want to go back to them ever again.

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        Japan still has legal CBN (and CBD), at least until the government figures out that people are using it to have fun and bans it. Although health care is cheap but not free.

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            Yeah cbd didn’t do much for me but cbn gives similar feelings to thc. I didn’t look into it very deeply but it’s something like thc breaks down into cbn over time. It’s basically a weaker version of thc. Apparently you could pass a drug test with cbd but not with cbn, for example.

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        You can get by with English in many countries but it doesn’t work as a long term plan to just rely on English if you plan to move there.

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    Individuals acting individually results in nothing except the death of a comrade. Action happens through coordination, intelligence gathering and collective action.

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      I mean thats true but i think many people are too afraid/low energy/uninformed to unite with others in order to coordinate. But i hope i am wrong and the people of the U.S. take back their country before Drumpf and his Goons have done too much damage (which i guess you could argue has already happened).

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    Whether or not the average person will go to a protest is heavily studied in Game Theory.

    Unsurprisingly, the consistent finding is that either the person needs to have no risk from attending (lol, facial recognition and Palintir), have no costs to attending, or things have to be otherwise be bad enough that they genuinely think that things can’t get worse for them if they attend and change might actually happen if they attend.

    See you at work on Monday I guess.

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      the person needs to have no risk from attending

      The government deals in violence and knows how to handle groups of protestors, whether they originate as peaceful or violent. Don’t play to their strengths by engaging them on that level and giving them a confrontation that they can escalate.

      Non-participation, boycotts, malicious compliance, quiet quitting, anticonsumption, and birthstriking are more my style. It’s not glamorous or quick, but governments are notoriously inept at dealing with situations that they can’t just beat or shoot at. They don’t know what to do when a hammer is an ineffective tool for the job.

      These sorts of actions may be inconvenient or cause you to forgo certain things that you want. However it doesn’t put you in any actual risk, whether it be physical, legal, or financial. The non-risk aspect of it means that it has a much lower barrier to entry, and thus a lower threshold for how bad things need to get before people take action.

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      or things have to be otherwise be bad enough that they genuinely think that things can’t get worse for them if they attend and change might actually happen if they attend.

      Usually, the main reason for protests and revolutions to grow immensely is if the means of livelihood is affected. No food to eat? Blame the government. No jobs? Blame the government. No housing? Blame the government. They’re cutting pensions? Blame the government. Speaking of which, the planned pension reform by Putin, years ago, was the only time his leadership was seriously threatened by the public. Otherwise, Russian people don’t care if Kremlin bombs the Georgians or Ukrainians, or dissidents keep flying off the window, so long as their means of living are not touched. In that sense, individuals are selfish and don’t mind authoritarianism as long as they themselves are not severely affected.

      Humans are complex and are not naturally predisposed to crave for democracy, contrary to what many Westerners believe. Ultimately, it is a question of liberty versus security. Some prefer security so long as standards of living is well kept by the ruling elites, and certain degree of freedom is allowed to the public. That’s why, unfortunately, some authoritarian leaderships persists for so long. Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy for as long as anyone can remember, and Francisco Franco’s fascist regime survived long, in spite of the fall of fascism after World War 2.

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        Protests aren’t nothing. That’s why the government spends so much energy dispersing them. Riots would be more effective, but that doesn’t make protesters nothing.

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          That reminds me of something I hear awhile ago. It went something like “if voting didn’t matter, they wouldn’t be trying so hard to stop you”

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          It’s less than nothing. The “no kings” protest had the effect of illustrating how limp the resistance is and empowering the fascists. They were racking up a body count while the rest of you were doing a parade. Great work.

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    If the country goes whaere it looks like it is going

    Eventually we each are going to have to decide

    When a resistance group is formed …

    Will you join?

    And what are you willing to do?

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      Curiously I’m having to deal with this very conflict. I want to join the resistance, but I’m (literally) allergic to sunlight (which precludes street demonstrations) and I’m a goblin when it comes to in-person social development, such as organizing.

      The mutual aid groups in Sacramento are scarce, so it’s difficult to ask them.

      Do I make useful memes and infographics? Not sure.

      Curiously, the nearest ICE hq is in San Francisco, and there are resistence movements there interfering with ICE action.

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        Probably cook.

        Travel along with the resistance, tending to troops, fixing meals, fetching ammo, just a worker bee in the military machine.

        • I was hoping at the No Kings demonstration at the California capitol, there’d be a pavilion giving away free tacos, and I’d volunteer to help make them. Alas, no one else acted on the idea.

          Option two was to find one of the organizers and man a free water bottle station. But those didn’t happen either. Demonstrators were just advised to bring snacks and water.

          Only after the fact did I notice the local mutual aid orgs had very little online presence. So, yeah, I’m back to researching. If I do ever find the Rebel Alliance, then conversations will be had. For now, I’m looking at groups like Indivisible with limited success.

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    No one seriously thinks these are anything like concentration camps, and that’s why most people won’t protest them.

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      One of the more dangerous assumptions is that Nazis were overtly and objectively evil from the start. It conveniently looked perpetually different than what we’re currently seeing.

      I mean, the photos we’re being presented - they’re not even in black and white!