So true, bestie, exactly what I meant.

I’m sorry this happened to you. I’m not dismissing that people can have difficult situations, this is why I’m not bashing anyone for not packing their things immediately and leaving this once. All I’m saying is that it should be a goal, how long does it take to reach that goal is another topic. We seemingly have an understanding here, so I’m not sure why you called it unserious.

If you in turn was serious about this conversation, you’d notice that faith was one of three reasons that led me to my belief. And I will clarify that my initial “trying” comment was made because I thought that your question was antagonistic and rhetorical, I’m sorry for the confusion. And I’m not sure how me being on my active journey to achieve my goal somehow invalidates my views just because I haven’t achieved it yet.

Please stop being a clown and putting words in my mouth, this is not a good look for you. Do you want me to hold your hand and explain how to do this? Find like minded people and mutually support each other, work and slowly but surely gather money for it like I do, or try using strategies immigrants use. At least try to understand me.

I’m not an American with your material privelege, and I don’t have any money either, and yet I’m trying. I have a moral conviction to do so, my close friend in America has as well. We are trying because we see it as a just and only plausable cause that will benefit everyone eventually. You can dismiss it as unserious all you want, but my lived experiences, faith and personal analysis led me to this belief.

If you say so

Appreciate it

It’s great and sustained, rendering the whole thing useless with no threat to anything of status quo. I am aware of the situation, this is why my stance is what it is.

I hope that you are right. I also hope that whatever few righteous people America still has, I hope they won’t let themselves be consumed by the vile selfish culture of that kingdom of evil. This whole thread exists because one of them feels like they aren’t getting anough respect from the rest of us(no disrespect to OP), while the struggle is never about that. American people are immoral and consumed by individualism and greed, I wish all of you that remain free from that rot the best.

I understand the importance of internal agents who can serve as sabotage. I am willing to listen and understand, what exactly is the potential of these groups? Are they arming themselves? Are they organizing militians or building encrypted networks?

With all due respect, come back to me when the American left will actually become something threatening. Other comments in this thread already explained how there is no real movement that can do real or any damage at all.

I understand that it might be overwhelming, I know and have faith that there are good people in America who want real change, I’d like to assume you are one of them. But I am a deeply religious person who looks at that country with a historical analysis, and I can only conclude that there is something deeply rotten and evil with that culture, you living among it has to have seen it. This is why I’m begging you this: don’t waste yourself there if you are genuine. Many people tried and will keep trying to break it from within, but all I can see in the future is the global south rising up and defeating the evil once and for all. I don’t know if you will listen to me, but I have faith that at least some of what I said touched you. We don’t hate you personally, believe me, but it’s hard to seperate individuals from such a disgusting evil as the United States of America.

I understand, truly. But let me tell you that no serious communist would call you a coward for leaving for a place where actual movement is possible. I didn’t mean to call you a “criminal”, if that’s how it turned out to be, but the environment you’re in simply doesn’t allow for a proper movement. It has been decades, close to a century now, and nothing. And for the money, also understandable. But I genuinely believe this is your real chance at doing something right if you are serious. I’m not telling you to get up and leave right this moment, but trying to do it eventually would be great. I myself am planning to do it and doing everything I can to achieve this goal.

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Buddy, I’m gonna be upfront with you and not sugar coat it: stop whining about stuff like that during times like this. You have to understand why so many people in that thread have such a hate for americans, including american leftists, your country literally just did a coup and invason. People simply look at your country and how seemingly nothing changes coup after coup, invasion after invasion, overthrow after overthow - your political situation and enviornment isn’t getting any more leftist, in fact the opposite. People expect something, ANYTHING, from you because its your country thats destroying the whole world without any remorse, and those people see no meaningful praxis what so ever. Even your own argument with Germany doesnt work, because Germany had a revolution attempt, only a failed one. What are you looking for exactly? Validation? Coddling? Is this why you’re doing this for, why you are a socialist? Just accept these genuine criticisms of the people of the global south and actually do something that will earn their respect.

I have faith that this will open the eyes of those who were blind up to this point. But even if it won’t, don’t ever stop spreading the truth. Evil runs on deceit and lies, faith and hope runs on truth and wisdom. Never shut up, keep your mind clear, always resist with words and keep organizing.

Their kingdom of evil is always fated to fall, but it won’t fall on its own. We will make them fall, the cause is only just.