Here is todays devils panties and wow. Been knocking it out of the park this week to me. Although not really the take here it makes me think about mercury in fish. As a doomer I actually feel that even if global warming was taken away by a genie wish and we 100% did not add carbon going forward we are in real trouble because of pollution. In our planet and in our products. I mean it seems when people talk about the rise of civilization they talk about agriculture growing staple crops, but fishing to me is even larger in importance for civilization. Its been our staple protein for most of history. Then of course we have the use of pesticides causing the increase in arsenic in our staples to. ugh.
What is that thing sitting to the right in the first panel? A young sibling covered in mashed potatoes?
How the hell do I find cinnamon that didn’t have lead in it?
Also, don’t buy anything from Temu. Most things from there have lead in them (even clothing), and most products don’t meet safety standards. Temu is a death trap… Also the app us malware infested and even leaves malware and spyware on your phone after you delete the app!
Okay wait. Is there a shit ton of lead in cinnamon and I don’t know about it?
It started with a bunch of kids getting lead poisoning from applesauce pouches. They then traced that back to how most spices are sourced from poor countries using basically slave labor. So, these people are both not the most careful in preventing contamination, but those paid by weight of spices are almost incentivised to cut the spice with a heavy metal or something to get more $/per lbs. for example.
Edit A good amount of chocolate and other delicious things, in the US at least, also have a “totally safe” amount of heavy metals.
At least some pre-ground pepper is cut with wood shavings or other such. buy a mill and peppercorns.
Apparently there was a recall on several brands
Lead and heavy metals will be added to spices by unscrupulous middlemen to increase apparent yield, and lead in specific is, for some reason, used in some older industrial spice grinders and will leave an intolerably high residue.
and lead in specific is, for some reason, used in some older industrial spice grinders
Because lead is cheap and easy to cast, I bet.
So instead of a recall, there should be a class action?
It’s complicated to hold the people responsible responsible, since they’re largely outside the US jurisdiction. The US companies that sold the product were, as far as anyone knows, ignorant of the contamination, buying from people ignorant of it who bought from people ignorant of it.
But yes, there should be, and are, lawsuits about the issue in addition to the recall.
Recalls are about public safety, and lawsuits about assigning blame or correcting wrongs. They’re not exclusive or substitutes.The US companies that sold the product were, as far as anyone knows, ignorant of the contamination, buying from people ignorant of it who bought from people ignorant of it.
A fair point. But in criminal law when you don’t know the guy in the passenger seat is going to jump out and shoot someone you still get life in prison for it. Civil litigation is not even bound by that and I would think a finding that they burned all their internal documentation to avoid discovery that they knew very well there was lead in it would be enough to award damages.
what? Im sitting next to some guy and he kills someone and you think there is some sort of criminal penalty for me??? Whats the distance limit on that law? one seat over. 10 feet. is it like covid?
I think he’s referring to the getaway driver in a robbery where you get part of the stolen money.
The company is profiting from the poisonous cinnamon.
oh oh. yeah ok so there is more than just being next to the guy. Yeah I would think there would be a due diligence question to. I mean I can’t put a death trap of a fence up on my property or like dig a moat.
You’d have to check with your local criminal lawyer or DA who would likely point out such exciting charges as accessory to a crime, accessory to murder, aiding and abetting a crime, criminal conspiracy, and 8 or 12 other extremely similiar charges which would all be dropped simultaneously on you and you’d either have to hope a competent attorney can navigate those charges for you and convince a judge and jury you ain’t done nothin’, or, as they’d prefer, you plea to something like manslaughter and only spend a few years in prison and a decade on parole, or, just sign the paper that your friend did it and talked about it and only get six months and 8 years on parole (which is $350/mo, usually). Bear in mind you’ll be in jail until all that is settled, which hopefully is less than a year but no promises. Unless you have $50,000 on you, cash.
Oh, btw, the justice system is super fucked up.
whos to say its your friend. im still curious on the distance. murders happen in the world we live in. are we all accessories?
There’s been a few different recalls. If you’re someone who doesn’t use a lot, you might have some that’s tainted.
Probably best to get unground spices. Your spices will taste better anyhow. Maybe a little less sweet, but… spicier.
maybe a little less sweet
I see what you did there
For those who don’t, it’s because lead tastes sweet. That’s why the Romans drank wine out of lead vessels and that’s why little kids eat paint chips.
Came here with the same question.
