Because an entire race of Blue Polysexual Mono-Gender females only able to birth other females didn’t seem to click very well with the Saudis.

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    We live in a world where people with money can buy and do anything as they want without having to deal with any consequences… shouldn’t we do something about it? And I mean 10 years ago at least

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      Its insane. Billionaires are ruining absolutely everything and monopolizing everything and turning everything into a propaganda arm for fascism which obviously is exactly what they want (to increase the power and wealth gap between themselves and everyone else). This is why people should be aggressively against censorship because the only way to defeat them is by allowing as many outside voices in as many possible areas as possible without giving the billionaires abilities and tools to silence them.

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      Sure.

      Stop seeing their money as valuable, and convince others to do the same.

      Don’t accept money for anything outside of work. Only accept things of value. And when possible, don’t offer money for things. Offer things of value, or work, or trades.

      Because the money’s not actually valuable. They’re intentionally devaluing it so that they can be the only ones with enough left to have anything considered wealth.

      If the population devalues the currency, that creates all kinds of problems.

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        Hilariously, one of the parts of Mass Effect that hasn’t aged super well is a running joke across all three games where you (a decorated military figure) can punch out a news reporter for trying to make you look bad on the news. To the point where if you do it in 1 and 2, she dodges in 3 but you can react to a prompt to headbutt her and walk away with her slumped against a wall.

        The paragon options for dealing with her include responding to her goading question about military losses caused by your decision by being a good brave little soldier and listing the names of the ships lost in the action.

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    Well, I doubt most reasonable people strictly needed more reasons to want EA and everything associated with it to stop existing, but here is one anyway.

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    Isn’t this exactly the kind of thing conservatives were always worried about happening to them?

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    Man EA is a given to boycott. No peer-pressure or 10/10 reviews is going to change that for me. Since the days of the endless yearly sports games in the 90s it was clear they’re c🤘nts

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    Offense to whom? Just like in real life, you can reject advances from those you aren’t interested in…

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    That is the gayest shit I heard men who are homophobic do. ITS A SPECIES OF FEMALE ONLY BEINGS , THAT HAPPEN TO LOOK LIKE SEXY BLUE WOMEN. THEY NEED TO FIND MATES FOR GENETIC CONTRIBUTIONS. In the words of zap branagan “what are ya queer or something?”

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    Could they use AI to reverse engineer all of the EA games like they did with the Adobe apps? I mean, if there are any companies who deserve it, companies doing things like this absolutely do.

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        You are aware that people have been using AI to resurrect old games for current modern platforms, right?

        That regardless of what all of the people who downvoted me and upvoted you happen to think, I did not in fact just pull this idea out of my ass, and that people have been doing this?

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    The inclusion of marginalized groups of people has never been the problem in games. It’s the preachy, political language that often comes with it. Mass Effect 3 featured a gay character, but there was no accompanying political language following him around. He was just a character who happened to be gay, and no one gave a shit.

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      It’s the preachy, political language that often comes with it.

      I personally would love to hear your examples of this.

      Please… Go on…

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        I want to preface this with I fully support LGBTQ+ rights, I think they’re human rights, and I’d rather see preachy inclusion than no inclusion or attacks on LGBTQ+ people.

        That said, I can’t think of an example in games but if you’re familiar with Doctor Who then Rose Noble (Donna Nobles’ daughter) from the 60th anniversary specials is I think an example I see often held up as preachy inclusion instead of just inclusion; especially since it comes after what I think is a better handling of it in the same show.

        Explanation for those who haven't seen, spoilered for those catching up on show still

        In the episode (The Star Beast), Donna’s daughter is trans, portrayed by a trans actress (side note, I need to watch Cassie Workman Is Witchy AF, I hear the trans representation in there is fantastic and that it’s a good show).

        Towards the end of the episode the show takes like ten minutes to stop and preach that she’s trans and it’s good. One of the actual lines (talking to the Doctor) is
        “DONNA: And you know nothing. It’s a shame you’re not a woman any more, cos she’d have understood.
        ROSE: We’ve got all that power, but there is a way to get rid of it. Something a male-presenting Time Lord will never understand.”

        They make a big deal about them being nonbinary and woman and the last ten minutes of the episode feel like a sermon about how we should be more open and it’s okay to be trans.

        In the context of the episode it killed momentum, wasn’t really telegraphed ahead of time, and just kind of felt like the writer wanted to preach about trans inclusion.

        This in a show where, as referenced, the doctor has been both a man and then a woman already and handles that transition in a less preachy manner. With Jodie Whittaker as the doctor they still talked about (in episode dialogues) how she was going to handle things differently than her male predecessors. The male to female transition was part of the show without just preaching about the gender change. The transition was the story without having to stop and flag itself as a good thing we needed to accept and understand.

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        Against my better judgment, since you seem to be trying to set me up for your judgment, I’ll cite the recent Dragon Age RPG—The veilguard. There’s a trans character in that who is insufferably preachy.

        If you eat to tell me that character is completely fine and anyone who complains is just being bigoted, just know I think you’re the one who’s nuts.

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          Was the character preachy because she was trans? Or was she just a preachy character and she was written that way who happened to be trans.

          I know a lot of trans folk. I’m married to one and one of my girlfriends is. I certainly know trans people who are just assholes in real life because that’s who they are as people. They just also happen to be trans.

          Most well adjusted people can completely separate the two. Clearly you cannot as one “preachy character” in one game caused you to have an opinion such as “It’s the preachy, political language that often comes with it.”.

          Games cannot have marginalized characters in them for you because one poorly written character who happened to be trans caused you to assume all marginalized characters as “preachy”.

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              The fact you use the phrase “have plenty of tolerance for trans people” says you don’t respect trans people. You just tolerate their existence.

              I would hate for them to see who I would assume is a friend of their to say “I tolerate their existence”.

              You’re genuinely a horrible person. And no one is “shoving political opinions” down your throat. Trans people exist and have the right to exist. If their existence is political, you’re a fucking asshole.

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          Do you believe that character spends their entire time in the game proselytizing about their sex or are you saying this just because they have one in-depth conversation about it where they state their opinions?

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            No, it’s not just that one conversation, there are comments littered throughout.

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            There was a lot more wrong with the writing than one poorly managed character. Nobody cared about cortez because the mass effect trilogy is a certified banger. It’s just too bad that by the time dragon age came along bioware didn’t have the chops to produce a proper compelling narrative any longer. The tumultuous development didn’t help things. The writing is just the most obvious thing to point at.

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              That’s not what the person I replied to was arguing at all, and I’m not talking about the writing of Veilguard in general.

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          There are plenty of examples of immature and brash teenagers struggling with parental expectations in video games. An easy example is Atreus in God of War. He is a little punk for the most part and Kratos interacts with him with barely suppressed exasperation. That game is widely loved.

          Taash is nonbinary so their coming of age story will naturally have elements about their gender identity. There is really only one conversation where that identity is one of the main topics. Other personal conversations are about their complicated relationship with their mother, trying to fit in especially after being raised in a different culture, and dragons. Standard topics for a young adult learning to navigate the world.

          TLDR: if you complain about Taash but don’t complain about other stories with teenage angst or think those other characters are well written but not this one you can’t relate to, it’s because you’re bigoted.

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            I know plenty of trans people and their coming of age stories. Most don’t behave the way Taash does in the game. They’re a political mouthpiece, not a representative of trans people. If anything, you’re the one alleging all trans people have this narrative, in this specific voice, with this specific rhetoric. Your comment honestly seems performative.

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              This should be obvious but people with nontraditional gender identities are not a monolith. No group is. Maybe take a step back and do some introspection about why you feel this strongly about sitting through one conversation where a character talks about their struggles from being part of a marginalized group. A conversation you can literally skip through.

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    A bit of a sensationalized headline, considering BioWare was only asked to remove a flag which resembled an LGBT flag in the game. IMO that is a bit different from “removing inclusivity,” which does a lot of heavy lifting. I mean, ignoring that this happens all the time for games sold in the region of Arabia (and maybe also China, but I am not sure about that, though I do know marketing materials are often altered for the CN region to make certain race characters less prominent such as Disney’s Star Wars The Force Awakens making John Boyega less prominent in marketing materials, for example).

    Personally, I don’t really see why there would even be any flags at all in a Mass Effect game in the first place. In the original 3 games it seemed that humanity as a whole had advanced beyond the need, desire, or use of flags as representative of people or their identities. I cannot recall any of the first 3 ME games having any, and BioWare made the romance options not care about the gender of the player character. NPCs in the games didn’t seem to care about it, really, so I don’t understand why the flag would have existed in the first place. For the same reason I would wonder why any current country flag would appear in the game either, I just don’t remember any flags at all. Perhaps I am misremembering and just forgot about one somewhere.

    To that end, IMO including any flags at all would seem like a regression of human society compared to the first three ME games, unless the cancelled ME took place in a human timeline very close to our current year. It just seemed humanity had advanced beyond the use of flags entirely, which I would imagine most space-faring civilizations would. I am not praising EA here, I am just confused as to why the situation happened in the first place, considering the established lore of the series.

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      It’s a galaxy filled with warfare and warring factions and you think there can’t possibly be any flags or insignia?

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        Well that isnt what I said. I said to me it would feel out of place because I dont remember there being flags in the other games like that. So it confused me why this situation would happen in the first place, that’s all.

        Perhaps I am unable to use the correct words to adequately describe my thoughts, which is way they end up being misinterpreted. It wouldn’t be the first time. My apologies for this.