• BigMacHole@thelemmy.club
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    12 hours ago

    This is TERRIBLE! And to make sure it DOESNT happen AGAIN we’re going to Write a SEMI STERN LETTER while they PROCEED with Construction!

    -The Finnish Government?

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      Very likely, considering which political parties are in charge.

      I call this government coalition “persrukous” (ass prayer):

      pers: persut, short for “Perussuomalaiset” (Finns Party, far right)
      ru: Suomen ruotsalainen kansanpuolue (Swedish People’s Party of Finland, centrist liberal, will do anything the coalition wants as long as everyone is forced to learn the language of the 5% linguistic minority, it’s always been like this no matter who the governing parties are)
      ko: Kokoomus (National Coalition Party, centre-right/right wing liberal conservative, your typical neoliberal demons who only care about making the rich even richer and punishing the poor for existing, they lead the coalition)
      us: uskovaiset = the religious = Kristillisdemokraatit (Christian Democrats, right wing, they’re pretty much NCP but they love Israel even more and hate everything)

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        Stealing persrukous. Until now I’ve settled for Ikea cabinet, but that was mostly inspired by the formation days. It took forever to build It looks like it could fall apart at any moment Dangerously leaning to right

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    14 hours ago

    As Finnish newspaper Kalevareported last month, Google is under fire for clearing over 300 hectares — the equivalent of almost 500 football fields — for two new data centers in the northern part of the European nation without concluding the necessary environmental assessments.

    Despite the assessments still being in progress, the tech giant’s contractors started clearing trees in the area months ago, raising the alarm bells at the Finnish Nature Conservation Association.

    “Either this is gross incompetence from Google’s Finnish project company, Tuike Finland Oy, or gross disregard for Finnish legislation, or at worst both,” said the association’s chair, Hanna Halmeenpää, in a statement, as translated by Wood Central.

    For those who haven’t looked at it

    Google razed the forest without the environmental assessments to whether they could do that or not, aka ‘fuck your laws and the wildlife’

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      Fine them $1 billion per tree. Seriously. It has to really hurt them, or it will just be “the cost of doing business.” It has to be bad enough that they must sell off a division or two, and their stock has to tank 33% or more, so they, and everybody else watching, takes a hard lesson from it.

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      It’s a bit more complicated. Tuike tried to argue that the project wouldn’t need that assessment as it wasn’t being done as part of commercially selling trees from a natural forest as a “natural resource” as the law was worded, and they tried to ask for a “case by case” exemption that would allow them to start the clearing without having to wait for the whole lengthy assessment process to go through the systems. That exception got rejected because “Forest nature does not only mean forests in their natural state, but also forests used for forestry” (the Finnish words being “luonnonvara”, “metsäluonto” and “luonnontilainen metsä”.)

      They might have been technically fine had they not sold any of the trees. But, I mean, what else can you do with 300 hectares of trees?

      Finnish source from HS.fi.

  • stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca
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    You know how people have been doing those horrible crimes where they destroy datacentres?

    I hope people don’t realize the same thing can be done to places like Google’s offices. But if they do, I also hope they’d be responsible enough to make sure no low/mid level employees were in the building. I bet, and this is just too sad, that the executives would be the prime targets 😔

    That would be tragic. Super duper tragic.

    So tragic.

    Tragic.

  • Leon@pawb.social
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    This is what I’m expecting with the Palantir CEO dude buying up a bunch of forest in Sweden recently. The statement is

    Den nya ägaren av skogsfastigheten är mån om markens skönhet och dess bevarande. De vidsträckta, naturliga skogslandskapen erbjuder värdefulla livsmiljöer för växter och djur, samtidigt som de utgör en plats för rekreation och återhämtning

    The new owner of the forest property cares for the beauty of the property, and its preservation. The wide, natural forest landscapes provide valuable living space for plants and animals, while simultaneously providing a spot for recreation and respite.

    We have “allemansrätten” here, as in you can go to and camp more or less anywhere. You don’t need to own the property to enjoy its natural beauty, or recreate there.

    It’s definitely going to be used for something vile. A datacentre or something.

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      With that motherfucker it’ll be something vile or the kind of concentrated cringe that makes your earwax melt just sharing a biosphere with it.

      Probably both.

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    The “move fast, break laws, reap profits, socialize losses” strategy.

    Fuck em. Fuck em all with a fork in the eye.

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      “move fast and break things” applied to the ecology and humans. Except without the “fix it” stage

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    Gross “We did it knowing nobody was going to prosecute us because Trump and that’s what bribes are for” reasons.

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    Better to pay the small fine, than ask permission.

    Fuck the techbros, fuck AI, fuck data centers, fuck billionaires.

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    “Incompetence” implies it was unintentional. This was completely intentional.

    “Disregard of the law” implies there is some law against this. Any law that will not punish the offender is not a law. So there was no “disregard” of any law in this case.

    Sundar Pichai is a conservative. His company leadership reflects conservative values, such as destruction of the environment, supporting genocide, supporting war and supporting fascism.

    Conservatism is cancer. The disease has metastasized and has infected most major corporations in the U.S., including Google. I’m not sure a cure is possible, but the treatment for it is not peaceful or pretty. We would need thousands more people named Luigi to be willing to perform heroic, selfless acts.

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      These sociopathic bastards think that anything that isn’t explicitly illegal under the law has social consent. The asshole Microsoft CEO even said as much publicly.

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        Unchecked capitalism is the direct result of unchecked conservatism. If not for conservatives, the normal people would be permitted to regulate capitalists and determin how much capitalism is acceptable in our modern culture.

        Under conservatism, the normal people are not even permitted to charge capitalists with crimes, force them to pay fair taxes or force them to pay fair wages. Is it only conservatives who protect capitalists from the regulating hand of the normal people.

        Conservatives are the ones who do the dirty work of union busting and passing laws that protect capitalists, even when it directly harms the public.

        If not for conservatives, the normal people would be permitted to regulate or abolish capitalism as we choose. Conservatives have always opposed regulations for capitalists. They will resort to violence in their protection of the wealthy.

        We cannot defeat the boss until his foot-soldiers are dead.

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    Yeah, it’s negligence. They gambled on any paltry fine being worth it, and still being allowed o proceed.