• BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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    Danes are the biggest dickriders of the US around. Even after all Trump did they still talk about being the US’ “closest ally.” Denmark is completely bought in on the US propaganda.

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      So one politicians that says a stupid statement immediately means the entire country it bought by the US?

      Wow, racism much.

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        23 hours ago

        Do you know what the word race means? Do you think Danes are a race?

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          They can be. Races are, mainly, a social construct. But me pointing out the popular position amongst the majority of danish political parties is not racism. Some people just like to reach.

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              I think we mean the same? Race is a social construct, like whiteness. Its not something thats really inherent to anything, so there could be made a construct called “the Danish race.” There isn’t, but in some alternative reality there could be.
              Or I might be misunderstanding you

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                I recommend checking the links. The theory of “race” is a bourgeois idea based on genetics, the theory of nations is a Marxist understanding of historically constituted peoples.

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                  Right, I think we might be misunderstanding each other, because I looked at the links. How does “race being an idea based on genetics” go against “race is a social construct”? Gender is also based, in part, on some biology, but it is still a social construct. Gender, like race (as far as I understand it, and from what I got from the linked texts, though I only skimmed them, so my apologies if I am missing something big) uses genetics as a post-hoc justification for its existence.

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                    Gender is a social expression of one’s felt sense of self. Race is pseudoscience used to categorize people into different “races” on the basis of genetics, but the Marxist understanding of nations is a more correct understanding of different groups of peoples with common history, language, and culture. The danish are not a “race,” they are a nation. Nations are very real, just as is gender, as is class, but “race” is not.

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            You’re mistaken. Danes are not a race.

            Xenophobia is the term you were after.

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              Im not saying Danes are a race. Im saying race is a social construct, so there could be made such a construct such as “the danish race”. There isn’t, but there could be. Or otherwise im misunderstanding you

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                This isn’t quite correct. The Danes are a nation, not a “race.” Social relations are material processes, they don’t disappear just because someone has a different idea. “Race” is a bourgeois theory that states that there are hard lines genetically between peoples, while the Marxist theory of nations understands them as historically constituted communities of people with a common language, culture, and economic life.

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                  Right. I dont really see what the point of contention is. I dont think “dane” is a race (of people teehee). A racial identity or whatever one would call it could be constructed around such a concept. While most Danish politicians are trying to construct something around a national identity that lets them be racist to brown people, there is also a small group trying to do it around some pseudoscientific idea of race - mainly about drinking milk?

                  So again: Dane is not a race (discounting some great dogs) because races aren’t really real, but because of that, one could construct the idea of a race, if it were something that would be beneficial to ones politics of whatever. And by “one” i actually mean “a bunch”.

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                    My point is generally that social relations are real, material processes. Race does not fall into that category, ideas themselves are not material processes by themselves. Nations, genders, classes, and more are real, material, social relations and processes. Race is not. I think it might be helpful for you to brush up a bit more on dialectical materialism, and I don’t mean that in a demeaning manner.

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        No, the fact that that is the general refrain amongst politicians, especially the prime minister - the leader of the country - AND the fact that Denmark continues to cooperate with the US as much as possible, including getting American bases on Denmark proper, is why I consider the country to be completely subsumed by the US.
        Sorry you cheap dunk sucked.