• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    You agreed that the DSA, PTB, Die Linke, PSL, and Breakthrough News should all be considered “pro-Putinist” and therefore subject to state surveilance and prevented from any position of power. I never claimed opposition to increased militarism is “neutral,” rather that it is aimed at peace in Ukraine and an end to the far-right slide Europe and the US are experiencing right this minute. It does not imply “pro-Putinism.” You are labeling any opposition to the buildup of a genocidal military apparatus as supporting Putin, and the advocacy itself as deserving of special state repression.

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      18 hours ago

      You agreed that the DSA, PTB, Die Linke, PSL, and Breakthrough News should all be considered “pro-Putinist” and therefore subject to state surveilance and prevented from any position of power.

      The relevant individuals and groups should be considered a security threat to some extend and be barred from some positions (mostly security and defense). I cannot rate the listed groups as of now.

      “pro-Putinism.”

      Ok fair. Perhaps not the best term I used there.

      You are labeling any opposition to the buildup of a genocidal military apparatus as supporting Putin

      Not wanting to support Ukraine is indeed genocidal towards Ukranians and support for Putin.

      and the advocacy itself as deserving of special state repression.

      Yeah. Though I would not consider it repression. Paradox of tolerance.

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        18 hours ago

        I will restate that I oppose Neo-McCarthyism, and the use of the capitalist state to crack down on anti-war socialist protestors and groups. You may support this crackdown and feel it necessary to blame rising socialist and anti-war movements as “pro-Putinist,” but as a socialist I find this utterly unacceptable.

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          12 hours ago

          Someone actively or passively supporting the Russian war effort should not be allowed into sectors meant to counter the Russian war effort. This is not McCarthyism.

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            11 hours ago

            Again, you are advocating for increasing state repression against anti-war activists and socialists. The groups I gave are not “actively or passively supporting the Russian war effort,” you are confusing advocacy for peace and a cessation of the far-right slide into increased repression and militarization with supporting Russia. You maintain this doublespeak because you need to. This is 100% McCarthyism, calling anti-war activists and socialists “foreign agents.”