The Trump regime is preparing sweeping sanctions against the International Criminal Court (ICC) in an attempt to destroy the world’s highest criminal court. The move is Donald Trump’s latest move to defend wanted Israeli war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu.
The sanctions would ban a majority of financial transactions with the court, isolating it from the US dollar and — if the global banking system capitulates as expected — from that too. Trump is expected to make a final decision during this week’s UN General Assembly gathering in New York City.
Trump has already abused US financial power to sanction the ICC president, judges and former chief prosecutor Karim Khan, as well as engineering Khan’s removal from his post, despite judges finding no evidence against him in sexual harassment allegations.
The US has previously said it would dismantle the ICC if it did not drop its charges against Netanyahu and other Israelis who have committed crimes against humanity.
Why does he care? Every other US war criminal president didnt give a shit about the ICC.
I think all of the middle powers want the ICC and need it to protect themselves from those trying to destroy it.
Attempting to dismantle the courtroom is not the choice an innocent person makes.
To be fair, I’d like to dismantle a lot of the classist, racist justice system that so many experience, but I’m guilty of being poor so maybe you’re on to something…
Ffffuck no, god no please, anywhere but the goddamn briar patch nooooo
So he wants to liberate the ICC from US influence at a time where other countries are withdrawing support for the US dollar? Cool! Then they won’t be puppets to the American imperialist agenda anymore.
They’ll keep doing what they’ve always done. Nothing.
Golly gee, i wonder what would motivate someone to do that
I can’t wait for the day when we turn him, Hegseth, and PeeWee Himmler Miller over to the ICC - after we’re done with them.
won’t happen, the US is then obligated to invade The Hague
https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law
We could, but we’re not “obligated” to do anything. Fake laws passed by criminals who are trying to avoid accountability don’t count. It’s just a law, not an amendment, one that has never been tested in the courts. Besides, if we really want to send these dickheads to The Hague, all we have to do is pass a new law.
Or just ignore this fake law. If we want to send MAGA High Command to the ICC, who’s going to stop us? Who’s going to FORCE us to meet our “obligation?”
the last time we tried to try fascists, we created things like operation paperclip to to protect them and we would be fools to assume that history won’t repeat itself if we ever start trying anyone in the administration – kissinger was a MUCH worse war criminal and nixon publicly admitted to pointlessly imprisoning and millions of americans for political gain and, yet, they both died rich and peacefully at home surrounded by people who loved him.
Operation Paperclip wasn’t to protect general run-of-the-mill Nazis, it was to protect the scientists and engineers who had done all that research that made Nazi Germany the juggernaut that it was. It wasn’t to protect architects of the Holocaust, High Command, etc., it was to protect scientific research that was extremely valuable, including nuclear secrets, no matter how it was compiled. Most of those scientists weren’t really Nazis, they were just German scientists, doing what scientists do, for the benefit of their nation. It was an unsavory, but necessary post-war step to preserve their important, and extremely valuable research.
But we still tried, and executed many of the real Nazi leadership. Punishing the true shitheads, while confiscating whatever good came out of their atrocities seems like the best outcome of a war.
LOL you’re deluded.
Of the millions of german nazis and nazis in their collaborator countries they executed exactly 23 in the Nurenberg media showtrial.
Operation Paperclip was only one of the programs, there were plenty more saving nazis who had no scientific value.
Among them the worst war criminals like Eichmann or Josef Mengele.
And plenty not even important ones too.
1000’s of the worst SS troops were evacuated to Canada and got to live their lives under another name.
The US/UK did everything they could to rehabilitate and whitewash nazis.
And succeeded.
Plenty got high positions post WW2.
Exactly like today, the west loves fascism.
You know nothing of history.First of all, Eichmann and Mengele were NOT part of Operation Paperclip. Eichmann was later captured in Argentina, shipped back to Israel, and executed. Mengele got away, unfortunately, and drowned in 1979, but he didn’t escape through Paperclip. Perhaps YOU are the one who knows nothing about history. I have a degree in history, and a lifetime of learning, but I’ll admit that I am still learning every day.
Nuremburg tried a relative few, because it mostly focused on the High Command, and most were sentenced to death, but there were thousands of Nazi executions across Germany, following the war. So many Nazis were executed that the actual number is unknown, but it is in the thousands.
Concentration Camp guards and administration were often executed on the spot. The Dachau prisoner riot is famous. Immediately upon liberation, many prisoners beat guards to death with shovels. Allied soldiers began lining up guards against a wall, and shot them.
Many other Nazi soldiers across Germany were captured trying to escape, and immediately executed, following a quick military hearing. A favorite method was a short drop hanging, in which the drop isn’t long enough to snap the neck, so the person dangles, and slowly strangles to death.
Some got away with it, MANY did not.
Maybe you should practice elementary comprehensive reading.
Read my comment again carefully:Operation Paperclip was only one of the programs, there were plenty more saving nazis who had no scientific value.
So no, I never claimed Eichmann and Mengele were part of Operation Paperclip.
I won’t go in to the rest of your nonsense.
Others have debunked that abundantly and thoroughly.I can only assume your degree in history is from a guilty nazi collaborator country (US/UK or Canada)
Rife with the same whitewashing and revisionism.
Really punished those high ranking Nazis like, off the top of my head, Adolf Heusinger and Hans Speidel by checks notes making them Chairman of NATO’s Military Committee and Commander of the Allied Land Forces Central Europe (COMLANDCENT) respectively?
Nobody is disputing that some in the chaos, but let’s get real - none of the High Command got away with it. They all eventually died, or spent many years in prison. Even Eichmann got tracked down in Argentina, dragged back, and executed.
none of the High Command got away with it.
If only that were true
Johann von Kielmansegg, General Staff officer to the High Command of the Wehrmacht, 1942-44, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1967-68.
Some more names I found:
– Sturmführer Dr. Eberhard Taubert worked with Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda where he was responsible for designing the yellow badge for Jews. After the war, he eventually became an adviser to ex-Nazi Franz Josef Strauss, German Minister of Defence from 1956-62, and was assigned by Strauss to NATO’s “Psychological Warfare Department” .
– Nazi Admiral and U-Boat commander Friedrich Guggenberger, whose U-boat sank 17 allied ships, later served as Deputy Chief of Staff in the NATO command Armed Forces North (AFNORTH) 1968-72.
– Johannes Steinhoff, a Luftwaffe fighter pilot, was made Chairman of the NATO Military Committee 1971-74, holding other NATO positions prior to that.
– Ernst Ferber, a major in the Wehrmacht, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1973-75.
– Karl Schnell, First General Staff officer of the LXXVI Panzer Corps, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1975-77.
– Franz Joseph Schulze, Chief of the Third Battery of the Flak Storm Regiment 241, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1977-79.
– Ferdinand von Senger und Etterline, Lieutenant of the 24th Panzer Division of the German Sixth Army, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1979-83.
And this is all just NATO not to mind other positions of power such as:
— West German Chief of Staff Hans Globke, Globke drafted the legal commentary on the 1935 Nuremberg laws, legalising the exclusion of Jews from public life, the theft of their assets and opening the door to their eventual murder. It was Globke’s idea to put a “J” in every Jewish citizen’s identity papers, alongside their new middle names: “Israel” for men, “Sara” for women. Globke’s fingerprints were also on laws outlawing “racial disgrace” – relations between Jews and “Aryans”. After the war, Globke confessed that he knew all about the Shoah, the industrialised murder of European Jews.
— Kurt Georg Kiesinger, served as the chancellor of West Germany from 1 December 1966 to 21 October 1969. Before he became chancellor, he served as Minister-President of Baden-Württemberg from 1958 to 1966 and as President of the Bundesrat from 1962 to 1963. He was chairman of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) from 1967 to 1971. In 1940 he was appointed to the broadcast policy department of the Foreign Office by Joachim von Ribbentrop, and became deputy head of the broadcasting and propaganda departments in 1942.
— The brutal Butcher of Lyon, notorious Nazi Klaus Barbie spent the Second World War torturing children and sending whole families to the death camps. But when the conflict ended, the Gestapo captain didn’t face instant arrest and swift justice. Instead, the US allowed him to start a new life as a CIA spy, smuggling him into Bolivia where he helped hunt and kill the revolutionary Che Guevara among other atrocities.
— General Reinhard Gehlen, the German army’s intelligence chief for the Eastern Front during World War II. At the end of the war, Gehlen established a close relationship with the U.S. and successfully maintained his intelligence network (it ultimately became the West German BND) even though he employed numerous former Nazis and known war criminals.
And also on Eichmann specifically:
Yeah, there were a few shitheads that the HQ of shitheads, the CIA, welcomed aboard, but most of them were soldiers doing their duty as soldiers, and governments generally respect that, even if the citizens don’t.
But for every one of your examples, there are many, many more that were executed, or imprisoned, that you aren’t mentioning. That’s the problem with the cherry-picking argument.
Former Nazis from across the board were systematically parachuted into positions of power across the western world specially in west Germany and in America to fight the communists. You can plug your ears all you like but that’s the reality.
Most of the history you know given I’m assuming you’re European or American given your insistence on this fantasy likely comes directly from
Franz Halder
German general and the chief of staff of the Army High Command (OKH) in Nazi Germany from 1938 until September 1942. During World War II, he directed the planning and implementation of Operation Barbarossa, the 1941 invasion of the Soviet Union. Halder became instrumental in the radicalisation of warfare on the Eastern Front. He had his staff draft both the Commissar Order (issued on 6 June 1941) and the Barbarossa Decree (signed on 13 May 1941) that allowed German soldiers to execute Soviet citizens for any reason without fear of later prosecution, leading to numerous war crimes and atrocities during the campaign. After the war, he had a decisive role in the development of the myth of the clean Wehrmacht.
After World War II Halder served as a lead consultant for the US Army Historical Division. He oversaw the writing of over 2,500 historical documents by 700 former German officers, whom he instructed to remove material detrimental to the image of the German armed forces. Halder used his influence to foster a false history of the German-Soviet conflict in which the German army fought a “noble war” and which denied its war crimes. The US Army overlooked Halder’s apologia because Halder’s group was providing military insights on the Soviet Union that it deemed important in the light of the Cold War. Halder succeeded in his aim of exonerating the German Army: first with the US military, then amongst widening circles of politicians and eventually in American popular culture. In 1961, he was awarded the Meritorious Civilian Service Award,
There were fewer than 20 people convicted in the Nuremberg Trials. I’m gonna let you run the ratio and see if that looks like justice when the Nazi party had over 9 million fucking members.
yes, that was the justification for operation paperclip, but we have the benefit of hindsight to educate us on whether or not that justification was valid and the fact that the same brand of fascism is currently taking over the western world today and has sparked an ongoing war in ukraine over a decade ago proves how much more of excuse than justification it truly was.
that’s not to say that nothing good came of it, but the hindsight from ww2 & vietnam already informs us much more bad it’s going to bring us than good it has done for us.
The ICC is a joke, I welcome dismantling it, it is a selective justice organization and lacks enforcement of its findings. Neither Israel nor the United States is a party to the Rome Statute, meaning the ICC holds no direct jurisdiction over them. The arrest warrant for Netanyahu was completely symbolic. ICC has and always intended to be a tool of neocolonial oppression in the hands of imperialists.
Neither Israel nor the United States is a party to the Rome Statute, meaning the ICC holds no direct jurisdiction over them.
most of the countries in europe are party to the rome statute, so they are under its jurisdiction, but the way they’ve bent over backwards to find loopholes that guarantee that netanyahu won’t be arrested prove that the icc’s existence is meaningless.
Idk, it must mean something if the empire is throwing such a fit over even a symbolic gesture from them…
it’s the narrative they don’t like, not the institution, and they’re okay with unsupportive narratives so long as they’re relegated to the fringes of the western world – the us empire depends on propaganda narratives to inflict misery in the name of short term profits and cobert prove how they’ll react if any of unsupportive narrative becomes mainstream.
So we have a mechanism in place to punish bad guys, but you want to dismantle it because it doesn’t do enough?
Instead of demolishing that hard work it took to establish such a system, why not spend the effort fixing the problems, and making it more effective?
Look at this list. ICC is just a colonial kangaroo court for Africa, its liquidation, even for the wrong reason, will benefit the humanity.
You already know why, because it is and was designed to be used as neocolonial imperialist tool. I am not against the concept of an ICC but not one that was developed for these reasons and not one that allows the US and Israel to steer it. I don’t think it can be reformed as its foundations are rotten. Same thing with police in the US.
Many non-Western countries, particularly in Asia, have historically been hesitant to join the ICC due to concerns about sovereignty and potential interference in domestic affairs. And their concerns have been validated. That’s why some countries are making efforts to form regional human rights courts.
I’ve said this before, it’s selective justice, that it’s victors’ justice. Powerful states and their allies are effectively shielded while weaker states and leaders who lose wars or fall out of favor get prosecuted. Just look at the The ICC’s own docket. There’s an asymmetry of power here. The court can only act where states allow it, they are not neutral and the ICC is used as a weapon.
If it was so powerless, why is the orange rapist so upset?
Because he is a toddler who cries about everything, even the court’s symbolic authority.
CHILD rapist.
Actually, Trump is a SERIAL child rapist.
But that wasn’t just random children, that was a structured island by a billionaire literally for that purpose, so “serial child rapist” doesn’t properly describe it. The praised rich haven’t yet created a term for that because it’s so outside of what has ever been punished.
This take doesn’t make much sense in light of the facts. Why issue a warrant against Netanyahu instead of capitulating to the Zionist narrative? Why create a legal quagmire in member states? Also, while it doesn’t have “direct jurisdiction” over non-members, i.e., the member states themselves aren’t bound to enforce its decisions, the member states do have obligations against members of non-member state who are indicted. That’s the whole thing. Palestine is a signatory, so they can issue a warrant against Netanyahu for his crimes there. The move to dismantle a court obviously drags down the legitimacy of a state, as well, so why would they fight so hard against a purely symbolic decision.
It’s about maintaining appearances and the thin veneer of legitimacy for those gullible enough to fall for it. Same reason why the U.S. sent aid to Palestinians while helping Israel bomb them.
As far as Trump’s motivations, he is a dementia patient motivated by greed and narcissism. Most of the things he does makes no sense at all. He has beef with the ICC, now they are his enemy. It’s not that deep. There’s a reason people call him Comrade Trump, because he is actively destroying the US empire and I honestly welcome it.
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is it just me that can’t unsee the vagina in his neck?
