Where did you get this? It was never said that they can’t maintain it. Google just isn’t releasing the firmware and reverse engeneering every piece of it is a nightmare and at that point you might as well make your own brand.
collaborating with other manufacturers than just Motorola
towards more decentralized hardware that can serve their needs while also having the ability to be manufactured by multiple vendors in a white label way.
Because graphene isn’t a project that developes phones? Also, Youre still relying on snapdragon and other manufacturers to make key components of your phones.
I refuse to believe that the most secure OS can’t be installed on the most OSH.
Time to change your mind I guess:
First of all, OSS dosent mean runs on everything.
Even if someone tried to port graphene to other hardware, they would have to remove key software from the port, like memory tagging, hardened malloc, etc. Which defeats the purpose of using Graphene over any other OS.
OS also dosent mean secure, or even good. Just look at the insane amount of open source software wrappers and snakes.
Did you read the rest of the sentence? I said I refuse to believe they can’t maintain Pixel GOS while also simultaneously doing research & development on finding a non-corporate, non-Google, non-Motorola hardware solution. Many people are saying that GOS can’t do both. I refuse to believe that. GOS Foundation could set aside resources internally to figure shit out, if they wanted to. I don’t see any reason they don’t have the ability to do that.
Because graphene isn’t a project that developes phones?
I understand that. But corporate lock out by Google and I predict also Motorola will mean that GOS will perpetually need to jump from sinking ship to sinking ship. Having control of the hardware that doesn’t come from a corporation means that they can develop their most secure OS without worrying about an expiration date on the hardware. I’m not saying I want GOS to make their own chips and phones. I’m saying I want GOS to partner with at least one OSH manufacturer like Pine64, Jolla, Purism, Fairphone, F(x)tec, SHIFT, Volla, Liberux, etc. so THEY can work on the hardware while aiming to meet GOS’ requirements.
Time to change your mind I guess
I’m sorry, but privacy isn’t freedom. GOS isn’t the most perfect solution for all of time. I’m advocating for GOS to think about their future given a world of capitalism which seeks to destroy all our freedoms in the name of profit.
Even if someone tried to port graphene to other hardware
Existing hardware isn’t sufficient. THAT IS WHY I’M ADVOCATING FOR GOS TO PARTNER WITH OTHERS SO THAT EVENTUALLY THEY CAN MAKE THE SWITCH AWAY FROM GOOGLE/MOTOROLA WHILE MAINTAINING ALL FUNCTIONALITY OF GOS.
I’m not really a programmer so I couldn’t really help in that capacity. I could donate but I also should donate to all of the other FOSS software that I use. What would be the best use of my money?
Somebody’s got to make the phones. You’re not going to find a bunch of modders who can manufacture millions of devices, so there’s gonna be corporate involvement somewhere along the line. Now that Google is no longer sharing the Pixel firmware, GrapheneOS is working directly with a manufacturer that will.
Where did you get this? It was never said that they can’t maintain it. Google just isn’t releasing the firmware and reverse engeneering every piece of it is a nightmare and at that point you might as well make your own brand.
Because graphene isn’t a project that developes phones? Also, Youre still relying on snapdragon and other manufacturers to make key components of your phones.
Time to change your mind I guess:
First of all, OSS dosent mean runs on everything.
Even if someone tried to port graphene to other hardware, they would have to remove key software from the port, like memory tagging, hardened malloc, etc. Which defeats the purpose of using Graphene over any other OS.
OS also dosent mean secure, or even good. Just look at the insane amount of open source software wrappers and snakes.
Did you read the rest of the sentence? I said I refuse to believe they can’t maintain Pixel GOS while also simultaneously doing research & development on finding a non-corporate, non-Google, non-Motorola hardware solution. Many people are saying that GOS can’t do both. I refuse to believe that. GOS Foundation could set aside resources internally to figure shit out, if they wanted to. I don’t see any reason they don’t have the ability to do that.
I understand that. But corporate lock out by Google and I predict also Motorola will mean that GOS will perpetually need to jump from sinking ship to sinking ship. Having control of the hardware that doesn’t come from a corporation means that they can develop their most secure OS without worrying about an expiration date on the hardware. I’m not saying I want GOS to make their own chips and phones. I’m saying I want GOS to partner with at least one OSH manufacturer like Pine64, Jolla, Purism, Fairphone, F(x)tec, SHIFT, Volla, Liberux, etc. so THEY can work on the hardware while aiming to meet GOS’ requirements.
I’m sorry, but privacy isn’t freedom. GOS isn’t the most perfect solution for all of time. I’m advocating for GOS to think about their future given a world of capitalism which seeks to destroy all our freedoms in the name of profit.
Existing hardware isn’t sufficient. THAT IS WHY I’M ADVOCATING FOR GOS TO PARTNER WITH OTHERS SO THAT EVENTUALLY THEY CAN MAKE THE SWITCH AWAY FROM GOOGLE/MOTOROLA WHILE MAINTAINING ALL FUNCTIONALITY OF GOS.
You do known it’s not some big organization right? Have you donated millions to the project to help this along?
I’m not really a programmer so I couldn’t really help in that capacity. I could donate but I also should donate to all of the other FOSS software that I use. What would be the best use of my money?
Somebody’s got to make the phones. You’re not going to find a bunch of modders who can manufacture millions of devices, so there’s gonna be corporate involvement somewhere along the line. Now that Google is no longer sharing the Pixel firmware, GrapheneOS is working directly with a manufacturer that will.