Is there a need though? At least according to this article, they last a lot better than what I was told they would 10 years ago. Combined with better battery tech, better charging systems and more awareness about how to care for your battery now compared to 10 years ago, I’m not convinced it’s actually a problem, but more something for the oil lobby and rednecks to point to while crying.
You made your own point. In 10 years the ‘new’ battery tech will make the current model cars almost irrelevant. Standardize the batteries and mandate replaceability. Phone companies figued that out a long time ago but ditched it in favor or profits.
What in the hell are you talking about? EV batteries don’t go bad as fast or frequently as you seem to think. When they do, they are highly recyclable.
Our uber driver was talking about how jealous he was of China’s system. They swap out the batteries. Why isn’t there a system where you keep a spare and just swap it out?
The reason is because there is no standard shape and plug for an EV battery. Chinese company Nio has swappable batteries but good luck getting all other car companies to adopt the Nio system. Getting everyone to agree to one common format is the main problem. But swappable batteries are in fact not very desirable though because nothing beats home charging, and by the time you need a charge, you also need a meal.
I don’t think you’d need to have every car as swappable, you would just need your own and carry a spare. Maybe have 3 batteries? One that you charge at home and then swap out as needed for the 2 in the car. Just some ideas.
Most people eat 3 meals a day so a charge only has to last about 4 hours of driving. And anyone willing to pay for and carry an extra battery is better off having it plugged in, which simply makes the car a more expensive, longer range EV, and there are plenty of those already.
Fix batteries, we need affordable battery replacement, otherwise electric cars are just a gadget.
No we don’t. Current batteries last longer than the rest of the car. If what you need is a battery without a car, you can have that anytime.
There are 30 years old fuel cars. You telling me electric cars can’t las 30 years?
You don’t seem to know how much it costs to run a car for 30 years. Total ownership cost or yearly cost: show us your math.
The batteries are fine, it’s the right wing propagate surrounding them that needs to stop.
Is there a need though? At least according to this article, they last a lot better than what I was told they would 10 years ago. Combined with better battery tech, better charging systems and more awareness about how to care for your battery now compared to 10 years ago, I’m not convinced it’s actually a problem, but more something for the oil lobby and rednecks to point to while crying.
You made your own point. In 10 years the ‘new’ battery tech will make the current model cars almost irrelevant. Standardize the batteries and mandate replaceability. Phone companies figued that out a long time ago but ditched it in favor or profits.
And? We went from 10 mpg sedans to 35 mpg ones in my lifetime. Improvement impacts every developing technology over time.
So the old ones are just e-waste? We could at least recycle a big chunk of ice cars
What in the hell are you talking about? EV batteries don’t go bad as fast or frequently as you seem to think. When they do, they are highly recyclable.
Our uber driver was talking about how jealous he was of China’s system. They swap out the batteries. Why isn’t there a system where you keep a spare and just swap it out?
The reason is because there is no standard shape and plug for an EV battery. Chinese company Nio has swappable batteries but good luck getting all other car companies to adopt the Nio system. Getting everyone to agree to one common format is the main problem. But swappable batteries are in fact not very desirable though because nothing beats home charging, and by the time you need a charge, you also need a meal.
I don’t think you’d need to have every car as swappable, you would just need your own and carry a spare. Maybe have 3 batteries? One that you charge at home and then swap out as needed for the 2 in the car. Just some ideas.
What problem are you trying to solve?
Longer distances on a charge?
Most people eat 3 meals a day so a charge only has to last about 4 hours of driving. And anyone willing to pay for and carry an extra battery is better off having it plugged in, which simply makes the car a more expensive, longer range EV, and there are plenty of those already.