The ritual is done at least 20 times, with months or years between each session, taking 10 to 30 minutes. The ones that pass through it all are accepted as warriors and future leaders
https://pib.socioambiental.org/en/Povo:Sateré_Mawé
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mawé_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraponera_clavata (bullet ant)
Oor, hear me out, ideas around morality and consent in the more nuanced-filled space of what would be considered psychological damage versus mental training are undoubtedly biased by the way any observer is raised and so impossible to claim that they can have absolute moral judgments placed on them without taking cultural relativism into account.
They made the big bold claims and moral accusations first.
You shouldn’t convince kids to torture themselves, and"the way they were raised" is no excuse. Bold statement, I know.
Hm, or maybe you should allow them to partake in mental training because it could help them overcome challenges more efficiently in the future, making the trade-off worthwhile. I know the ideas of conditioning and building tolerance might be foreign to you, but they’re not foreign to everyone. This isn’t settled science or anything, so for the moment you might have to take a seat down from your high horse and accept the possibility of alternate views existing with plausible arguments behind them.
I feel some very strong projection vibes here. Also, conditioning yourself to pain doesn’t work by going from zero to one of the most painful things known to man.
I mean, there were (are?) Alternative cultures that see pedophilia favorably. I’m not exactly about to warm up to that, either.
Omg not the vibes - oh my lord, a whole zero!?! To sixty?!! 😦
Dial 911 and ask to speak to the president.