Media Matters has the transcript: CARL HIGBIE (HOST): There’s some major updates on the efforts to Islam-ify America — actually, stopping it. Great state of Connecticut, this is just insane…
I’m a childless atheist, if my kid wanted to be baptized, I’d let them, I wouldn’t agree with it, but it isn’t my choice. If someone baptized my kid without their consent, they’d be going to meet their god.
Most I’ve come across have an exception for any layperson to do the baptism if the person’s life is in danger. E.g., come up to a car accident, person is near death, ask them if they accept Jesus (or not if they’re unconscious), baptize them, was the classic example I heard over and over. Now the Christian extremists in this article, I could see them saying “we’re in a holy war with these Muslims and their eternal lives are at risk, therefore their lay teachers can baptize”. Not that I expect them to put that much logic into it.
Check out Church of LDS Baptism of the Dead ritual. The person doesn’t even have to be alive or their body present to be baptized. And at least the mormons I grew up with, any “priest” or above could do a baptism, “priest” being any male church member in good standing, at least 15 or 16 years old.
I’ve heard similar of Catholics, that some don’t consider them to be Christian. I believe along the line of whether faith alone or faith+works will save a person’s soul.
Maybe these people just need to get really into a sports team. It feels like that sometimes; clinging to some minute detail or charisma of a player or coach, and therefore my blue team is far superior to your navy blue team, and don’t even get me started on how terrible red team is.
I find it to be worse than sports teams. But it’s just my experience so who knows. Let’s say you’re an NFL fan and your team is the Tennessee Titans. Die hard fans will rant about how shit the quarter back is. They’ll say the owner/coaches needs to be fired or replaced, if a player is caught doing drugs or not showing up to training camp, drops a catch, misses tackles, gets self absorbed they want his ass gone. MAGA has gone back and forth on supporting Ukraine, back and forth on starting new wars, fumbled balls gotten caught with drugs, etc. but at the end of the day we don’t hear their supporters yelling Hegseth and Rubio and Trump and whomever need to be fired. It really goes to show they arent supporting “team” U.S. or Team Republican, they are just and only Team Trump no matter if it hurts the U.S./Republicans/Conservatives/ etc
Oh, for sure it’s worse than sports fandom. I was trying to express more that they have a lot of energy they are directing towards religion that has commonalities with “my blue team good, your res team bad” mentality. Energy which might be less toxic if redirected away from religion to sports.
Then again, I have been in a public space when some dingbat randomly yelled out “Roll Tide”. We weren’t in Alabama.
I’m a childless atheist, if my kid wanted to be baptized, I’d let them, I wouldn’t agree with it, but it isn’t my choice. If someone baptized my kid without their consent, they’d be going to meet their god.
Is there really Christian sects that don’t require a priest/preacher to baptize people?
Most I’ve come across have an exception for any layperson to do the baptism if the person’s life is in danger. E.g., come up to a car accident, person is near death, ask them if they accept Jesus (or not if they’re unconscious), baptize them, was the classic example I heard over and over. Now the Christian extremists in this article, I could see them saying “we’re in a holy war with these Muslims and their eternal lives are at risk, therefore their lay teachers can baptize”. Not that I expect them to put that much logic into it.
Check out Church of LDS Baptism of the Dead ritual. The person doesn’t even have to be alive or their body present to be baptized. And at least the mormons I grew up with, any “priest” or above could do a baptism, “priest” being any male church member in good standing, at least 15 or 16 years old.
True, remember the LDS/Mormons were classified as non Christians by MAGA I thought.
Believing in Christ doesn’t make you Christian apparently lol. There are other qualifications, so as putting country before God lol
I’ve heard similar of Catholics, that some don’t consider them to be Christian. I believe along the line of whether faith alone or faith+works will save a person’s soul.
Maybe these people just need to get really into a sports team. It feels like that sometimes; clinging to some minute detail or charisma of a player or coach, and therefore my blue team is far superior to your navy blue team, and don’t even get me started on how terrible red team is.
I find it to be worse than sports teams. But it’s just my experience so who knows. Let’s say you’re an NFL fan and your team is the Tennessee Titans. Die hard fans will rant about how shit the quarter back is. They’ll say the owner/coaches needs to be fired or replaced, if a player is caught doing drugs or not showing up to training camp, drops a catch, misses tackles, gets self absorbed they want his ass gone. MAGA has gone back and forth on supporting Ukraine, back and forth on starting new wars, fumbled balls gotten caught with drugs, etc. but at the end of the day we don’t hear their supporters yelling Hegseth and Rubio and Trump and whomever need to be fired. It really goes to show they arent supporting “team” U.S. or Team Republican, they are just and only Team Trump no matter if it hurts the U.S./Republicans/Conservatives/ etc
Oh, for sure it’s worse than sports fandom. I was trying to express more that they have a lot of energy they are directing towards religion that has commonalities with “my blue team good, your res team bad” mentality. Energy which might be less toxic if redirected away from religion to sports.
Then again, I have been in a public space when some dingbat randomly yelled out “Roll Tide”. We weren’t in Alabama.
Happens all the time in the southeast U.S. especially the panhandle of Florida, aka Lower Alabama