• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Did you just get a little twinge of nervousness about siding with someone that thinks being a “liberal Jew” automatically means someone is horrible person? Hmmm… what kind of people think “liberal jew” = evil?

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      4 days ago

      I did not side with him I reported the antisemitic comment you mentioned. Being a Zionist is as bad

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        3 days ago

        You think “zionists” are bad and assume everyone that’s against antisemitism is a “zionist”. So logically that means you think anyone that’s against antisemitism is bad.

        I don’t want comments like the one you claim you reported to be removed. That’s just sane washing what “anti-zionism” is really about. We need to get to a point where people are pushing for reconciliation. Covering up and rationalizing hatred doesn’t get us there. Recognizing that hatred is the problem is the first step to fixing the problem. Trying to pretend that you’re better than someone that hates “liberal Jews” because you hate a different group of Jews is just rationalizing your hatred.

        Right now you’re rationalizing your hatred of me. I’m not Israeli, just someone who recognizes that hatred isn’t making anything better for both Palestinians and Israelis. But you want to cast me as an evil “Zionist.” Someone you should target hatred at. Do you think hating me will make anything better for Palestinians? Will perpetuating hatred make things better for anyone?

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          3 days ago

          Zionism is bad because the reality is that Jews was a minority anywhere, and they never had enough continuous land to create a state without ethnically cleansing another population. Herzl talked about ethnic cleansing and he is mentioned as the spiritual father of the settler colonial genocidal state of Israel declaration of “independence”

          I don’t think people against antisemitism is a Zionist either

          Don’t assume I hate all Israelis. I btselem a human right orgs within Israel is doing a great job exposing Israeli state and settler terrorism

          I want reconciliation that is why I believe in a one state solution with equal rights for everybody and war criminals in both side to be held accountable

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              3 days ago

              Creating an ethnostate in an already inhabited land by ethnically cleansing is the local population like herzl described

              Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

              The property owners will come over to our side. According to my conception, the majority of the local population will have to be transferred elsewhere.

              We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country. - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

              Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895