I am with Grimy on this one; I feel the same level of creeped out when I see Pentecostal women in skirts as I do when I see women in burkas. There’s nothing inherently oppressive about skirts but when you see a group of people who are clearly part of a culture that uses them for oppression, whether that individuals oppressed or not, it’s impossible for me to not see it in a different context and be reminded of all the bullshit in the world.
Not any more assumptive than anyone asserting these women MUST be oppressed.
Considering they’re at the voting booths exercising their right to vote, I think none of us can judge what these women are doing. They should be free to do as they want.
Stop putting words in my mouth and implying I’m an extremist. Personal freedom above all else, I am not saying they should be forced to show their face.
We are both assuming I suppose. What makes you a hypocrite is going “you are assuming wrong because my assumption is clearly right”.
What isn’t an assumption is that the dress is a symbol of oppression stemming from a culture of oppression. Are you going to ignore this point again?
Sure they might wear it because they are used to it and might even feel unsafe not wearing it, but all those habits were still forced into them by an oppressive system.
In the end it’s still a patriarchal system built to oppress women, the dress is a tool for oppression even if some wear it freely.
That’s the key point, I’ll put in italics so you stop reading over it: oppressive system, oppressive system, oppressive system, oppressive system, oppressive system.
I am with Grimy on this one; I feel the same level of creeped out when I see Pentecostal women in skirts as I do when I see women in burkas. There’s nothing inherently oppressive about skirts but when you see a group of people who are clearly part of a culture that uses them for oppression, whether that individuals oppressed or not, it’s impossible for me to not see it in a different context and be reminded of all the bullshit in the world.
There are 2 women in this picture.
What does that have to do with what I said?
You’re judging 2 women who went to vote. Like you know everything about them and why they wear this.
I’m not judging anybody, did you even read what I said?
The line about seeing groups of people that are part of the same culture of oppression makes you uncomfortable.
At least in this picture, these women are exercising their right to vote and their right to wear what they want. That’s all we know about them.
If oppression doesn’t make you uncomfortable then you’re on the wrong side of history.
I’m going to quote someone else in this very conversation:
You have the right to not like it. But you don’t have the right to force everyone else to change to accommodate what you don’t like.
I never claimed that right. You’re really reaching for an argument in this conversation.
And that isn’t an assumption? The hypocrisy is massive.
Not any more assumptive than anyone asserting these women MUST be oppressed.
Considering they’re at the voting booths exercising their right to vote, I think none of us can judge what these women are doing. They should be free to do as they want.
Stop putting words in my mouth and implying I’m an extremist. Personal freedom above all else, I am not saying they should be forced to show their face.
We are both assuming I suppose. What makes you a hypocrite is going “you are assuming wrong because my assumption is clearly right”.
What isn’t an assumption is that the dress is a symbol of oppression stemming from a culture of oppression. Are you going to ignore this point again?
Sure they might wear it because they are used to it and might even feel unsafe not wearing it, but all those habits were still forced into them by an oppressive system.
In the end it’s still a patriarchal system built to oppress women, the dress is a tool for oppression even if some wear it freely.
That’s the key point, I’ll put in italics so you stop reading over it: oppressive system, oppressive system, oppressive system, oppressive system, oppressive system.
Jfc