• DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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      22 hours ago

      Lol. Wikipedia? Now i know you must be joking.

      Go down to the “references” section and look at the sources they’re citing. It’s just a bunch of academics quoting each other quoting Adrian Zenz, who is categorically an Austrian Christofascist who has been lying about a genocide in Xinjiang since he first heard of the place in 2016, with a few scattered quotes from ETIC terrorists.

      HRW is a privately funded (read: billionaire controlled) organization that is basing its assessment on the same debunked lies from Zenz and the ETIC.

      But since that’s obviously too deep for someone who thinks Wikipedia is a valid source, let’s try it this way: the genocide in Gaza is being live streamed daily. Genocide in Sudan and elsewhere invariably produces a refugee crisis. If China is actually doing what Dr Zenz and his CIA handlers claim, where is the actual evidence? Where are the photos, videos, refugees, etc? You’ll notice they always have the same three or four Uyghurs show up to testify, because those are the ones that have CIA handlers and can be relied on to push the right narrative.

      Don’t bother coming back with more pureile, vapid repetitions of the same nonsense, I won’t bother coming back to refute it, just treat it as a rhetorical question. Do you genuinely believe China has become so advanced at information control that they’ve managed to pull off the first secret genocide in history? Or is it more likely that Zenz, the CIA, and the ETIC are lying?

      While you chew on that, here’s some food for thought:

      Source: YouTube https://share.google/SKRcPUNM8oeGkFaO7

      Edit: no, I don’t think you’re a Nazi, but I think you’re exactly the kind of Liberal that Nazis love to have giving them cover.

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        21 hours ago

        Ahh, so you’re a genocide apologist.
        Yeah further conversation between us will not be productive, I agree.

        Edit: Since you asked:

        o you genuinely believe China has become so advanced at information control that they’ve managed to pull off the first secret genocide in history? Or is it more likely that Zenz, the CIA, and the ETIC are lying?

        I think you’re ignoring evidence because it conflicts with your ideology, yes.

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          20 hours ago

          You haven’t presented any evidence. A wikipedia article and a Western NGO opinion piece are not sources. If you want to find a primary source please bring it to the table, but so far all you’ve done is repeat lies said by known liars with strong ideological incentive to slander China.

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            20 hours ago

            Hey I thought you said “I won’t be coming back to refute it?” I guess you forgot the meaning of your own words. I, unlike you, actually do the things I say I’m going to do. I said this conversation is over - and it is. You know why? Because I do not debate conspiracy theory-riddled asshole wackaloons who apologize for genocide.

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              20 hours ago

              There was nothing to refute. I came back to point out that shitting all over the board and pretending you’d won isn’t the same as winning, pigeon boy.

              Because I do not debate conspiracy theory-riddled asshole wackaloons who apologize for genocide.

              But you clearly are happy to carry water for conspiracy theory riddled theocrats who lie about genocide. Keep going through life believing that the US State Department is trustworthy. It will definitely not bite you on the ass at any point.

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                15 hours ago

                I don’t give a shit what you’re pointing out. I refuse to argue with genocide deniers.
                Now I’m blocking you. Bye Bye.

                P.S. If you really think the Ughur genocide is some kind of conspiracy theory invented by the west to make China look bad then you’ve got some serious mental problems. Wake up and smell the bullshit please.

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                  8 hours ago

                  WaKe Up aNd sMeLl ThE BuLlShIt!

                  As if you’d actually presented a shred of evidence that doesn’t require believing known liars as a prerequisite.