Two Israeli female soldiers died by suicide this week, bringing the number of serving Israeli soldiers who have taken their own lives since the start of the year to 16, amid growing concern over rising suicide rates in the military since the war in the Gaza Strip began.
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This should be put into context.
Imagine having a genocidal campaign that is so evil, that the soldiers who lustily signed up for it are unable to tolerate the inhumanity.
Israel has mandatory military conscription. They throw you in prison if you refuse.
Rather go to prison than participate in genocide
They can choose to leave
My dude, have you ever emigrated? It is not generally an easy not cheap prospect, especially when international borders are involved. My wife and I have been saving for years to emigrate and realized we’d be better served just going off grid.
They should switch sides or do sabotage instead.
Are you sure they can? I’d assume they’d get arrested trying to leave.
That’s not easy or cheap do to, especially for young adults who grew up in a propaganda machine that wouldn’t make those options known. At the bare, absolute minimum though, they should be firing at the ground or otherwise hurting the war effort. Not having tires inflated all the way, dropping some sand into the engine’s motor oil, not charging drone batteries properly, giving bad intel to send squads into circles.
Isis terrorists was also propagandized too, nazis soldiers was also propagandized. Stop with the dumb excuses
American’s were also propagandized after 9/11. Trust me, it’s not fun being the only one in your highschool who thought we were moving too fast into war.
People celebrate Russians dying on lemmy we never see apologist like you when it happen. If someone get propagandized in believe settler colonialism and genocide is fine then that person go help doing more colonialism and genocide by serving the colonization forces you deserve to be killed or taking your own life unless they truly repent by becoming an anti colonisation and genocide activist
Don’t take what I said as apologizing for propagized Israelies. The ones that the propaganda didn’t work in though don’t have many options though. I pity those few though because I don’t see this ending well for them.
Yes they have the option of accepting few years of jail which is better than killing innocent people in the goal of genociding people or getting killed by resistance
Doesn’t matter. Nothing excuses genocide. NOTHING. Death to the IDF. If they dont refuse to serve, they deserve to die
Being disobedient to Royalty just prior to the French Revolution. They threw people in prison, or worse.
Tell me more about unbreakable rules, and how dissent is impossible.
It’s not impossible. It’s just important to take into account that not everyone will choose to be locked in a cage and repeatedly raped, possibly killed, when given the option.
Russians have it worse if they refuse to serve. We don’t hesr your bullshit about them
What? Of course, that’s equal.
That’s actually why the Nazis created the concentration camps. Regular soldiers couldn’t cope with doing the genocide themselves, so they got their sociopaths to run the camps and had them do it.
No, the more interesting part of the data is that even the true believer psychopaths in the SS couldn’t handle more than 3-4 executions before they were psychologically destroyed.
And the original solution was trucks that pumped exhaust in the back. Even then, the screaming and the removal of bodies were problems for the troops.
This is why my solution to the trolley problem is to never flip the switch.
Suicide rates are high in any military personnel.
But the rates are not identical across the different military organizations around the world.
Also, you can check the suicide rate among IDF personnel during any given year, and see that the suicide rate has spiked.
Whelp, that takes care of your minimization attempt.
Do you have data from a military whose purpose wasn’t to enforce the exploitation others?
Dude that seems like a definition you tailored yourself. Could you provide the list because mine will either be exactly the same or wildly different and we’ll never know.
I’ll go first:
Of course I tailored my definition to suit the subject we are talking about, isn’t that a good thing?
People are saying these soldiers may have killed themselves because of a guilty conscience, then someone says it’s common among militaries as if to counter that theory, so I ask if they have an example from a military whose members shouldn’t have a guilty conscience.
And hey, whaddaya know, we have the same list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_military
Okay, so which of those countries that have committed genocide in the past century do you think qualifies?
No idea. Personally not that interested, I was just answering your initial query. Do your own research.