Russian incompetence in this war quite frankly exceeds the level of Soviet collapse by an order of magnitude. I like to think Trump is being played by Putin, but it sure does seem like they’re on pretty much the same level strategically.
What a perfect example of Soviet-style fascism. Putin needs a lead lobotomy.
putin is literally a liberal who was brought to power by the backing of liberal west, he has nothing to do with soviets, dont take name of soviets from your mouth.
I disagree that they’re on the same level strategically. This is only bad for Putin if he cares about Russian people. He doesn’t, so it’s not a failure. This was/is about legacy building. He’s a modern emperor fighting an endless war because admitting defeat would look bad. Ironically, it’s exactly what led to the last Russian emperor to be removed by the people.
It might even be intentional cultural and ethical cleansing, by disproportionally sending out the non-white non-“Russian” population to the meat grinder…
He does not care about the people, he cares about what those people might do to him. His legacy is now one of the worst leaders, like we are talking about in 50 years having a good chuckle reading about his massive failure that called itself an “empire”.
Compared to Trump he’s a genius, but that’s mostly because Trump could probably be diagnosed with a serious intellectual deficiency if any honest doctor got the chance to examine him.
In terms of real intelligence, Putin’s no mastermind, though. Americas problems can’t be blamed on Russian manipulation, since any manipulation on their part is inept at best. You got yourself into your current mess all by yourselves.
The assessment of Putin is quite accurate. He could only do low intensity conflicts and he has a habit of starting something but is never able to finish. Even Georgia is an unfinished business.
putin is literally a capitalist oligarch (like US leadership) who had good relation with west initially and had been setup there to deepen the roots of capitalism inside the then revolutionary russian society. He completely embodies liberal western world order and his capitalist greed of war and imperialism.
Holy shit this is amazing. Are you a renegade ML or did you all just decide framing it as a capitalism problem was easier than propagandizing NATO by saying they basically forced putin to invade?
Interesting that you differentiate the US and the US in a trenchcoat as two entities. How? Shock doctrine and the cold war. The US tries to place someone more malliable to their benefit in power, and like the rest of them it always ends up biting them back.
While the US certainly does that broadly, Putin is not the beneficiary of such a ploy. That’s one of the few major bad things in global politics that the US did not do.
He didn’t particularly benefit, his trajectory could have been just as productive under the Soviet government. It’s not like he was a total outsider. If anything it might have stalled his political career advancement a few years.
What? Russia has advanced significantly into Ukraine despite the entirety of NATO backing the Ukrainian forces and forced violent conscription in Ukraine…
I have seen evidence of violent conscription on both sides. This is a serious war. Russia are changing their entire economy to capture as much of Ukraine as possible.
The very idea that the nation who in mid invasion of the very nation the Minsk agreement is for is somehow not breaking the treaty that says no one will invade that very nation is wild and some real amazing dissociation.
Yeah. And it’s not even the only treaty they’ve broken. Like the Budapest Memorandum providing security assurances for Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, or the neat little agreement not to change borders in Europe with military force. And then there are all those countless broken ceasefire agreements in this current conflict…
Almost as if every nation around them have been stating no one can trust a russain word or treaty for a while now. Look at Poland who for many many years has been screaming at the top of Rysy mountain about russia being a threat and even now people out side of the former soviet bloc keep thinking this can be fixed by another agreement in writing. That a good talk and document will change the russian stance in the world.
The reason Ukraine does stop fighting and has little hope in a peace treaty is that a russian treaty is not even as worthwhile as toilet paper. This is in fact a very bad thing for russia on the world stage, no one trusts them at all. The only ones willing to work with them are using them and plan to squeeze them for everything they can (China, North Korea, India). This is how empires end, they are not strong enough to be the bully in the world and have zero credibility outside of being a contrarian talking point. The same thing is happening to israel and the states right now, who would want to sign a trump deal that he will rip up in a few months? Or a cease fire with netanyahu? Whats the point?
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Bro, wtf is this shit.
So the draft is morally questionable and you’ve seen the footage provided and now you find excuses in Washington, D.C.? Cope harder, buddy.
The article is written by a Russian about his home region in Russia. Would you rather if someone from fellow St Petersburg Institute have written the article, tovarisch?
Your “article” is originally (as stated and linked) from Radio Free Europe, a US financed, CIA founded anti-Soviet media outlet with the sole purpose to spread propaganda. So, for one, you’re spreading US propaganda.
Anyway, the topic was about the systematic, forceful obduction of Ukrainian citizens by their own government, only to imprison them, torture them and then throw them into the meat grinder. So, your whataboutism is using US propaganda to distract away from that, which is shady as fuck, “comrade”.
Predictably comrade, you are repeating the same old RFE this, RFE that. Straight from your handlers playbook that people have been hearing from years. Who cares? What is so bad about spreading democratic ideals? Is the colour revolution bad because it usurps Kremlin-aligned kleptocrats? Is this why Russia promotes regressive dark enlightenment ideas and being associated with Epstein.
Anyway, the topic was about the systematic, forceful obduction of Ukrainian citizens by their own government
Well done, you just figured out how draft works 👏👏. But predictably, you won’t mention about Russian authorities drafting students, street raids and coercing businesses to send youths. So, how is Russia better as you are implying? One side is fighting for survival, the other is forcefully recruited to suck their superior’s dick. Cry me a river. Oh and before you say anything, if Ukrainians are indeed tortured by their state, they would not be so motivated to cause Russia a net territorial loss this year and Putin just waivered bond auctions which could lead to the Russian state defaulting. You better leave your office in St Petersburg, tovarisch, before Russia collapses again in just less than a generation. You don’t want to live the 1990s again. The couple of cents you gained from few previous posts should let you buy a plane ticket out of there 🫡
It’s inexcusable, too, but pales in comparison of what the Russian side is quite literally doing, as in, invading a neighboring country, while doing the very same thing you highlight Ukraine does, but in larger degree. At least the Ukrainian side can be understood (though never accepted) as desperation from trying to defend yourself against a much larger invader. Russia still doesn’t have any excuses, they are the aggressor and the invader.
We can both-sides every little thing here, and agree that neither side is flawless, nobody in war ever is, but the main point stands: The one is pillaging and raping a sovereign country, the other is trying to defend against that.
The “entirety of NATO” didn’t back the Ukrainian forces in the first 3 days. Your favourite “superpower” somehow failed to take the capital of a smaller state that was mostly fighting with the very same “superior” hardware Russia is using. It took several weeks, if not months, for western military support to actually arrive on the battlefield. All while those “unbeatable” Russian tanks either got stolen by Ukrainian farmers using tractors, or blown to bits by DIY anti tank explosives.
Yeah, in the opening days of the invasion, the western powers were primed to wag their fingers and write sternly worded letters at the presumptive conquest of Ukraine. They weren’t happy, but I think they were all too ready to just let it happen.
Only after Ukraine showed that it actually had some capability and will to successfully resist, then it became worthwhile for more substantial, though still indirect support from a lot of NATO nations.
What does significant mean than, facetious good sir? Around 20 % of state territory is not significant? At which point are you willing to call it significant? Please provide us with your arbitrary cope reasoning.
Russian incompetence in this war quite frankly exceeds the level of Soviet collapse by an order of magnitude. I like to think Trump is being played by Putin, but it sure does seem like they’re on pretty much the same level strategically.
What a perfect example of Soviet-style fascism. Putin needs a lead lobotomy.
“soviet style”
hurr hurr scary gommunism
putin is literally a liberal who was brought to power by the backing of liberal west, he has nothing to do with soviets, dont take name of soviets from your mouth.
I disagree that they’re on the same level strategically. This is only bad for Putin if he cares about Russian people. He doesn’t, so it’s not a failure. This was/is about legacy building. He’s a modern emperor fighting an endless war because admitting defeat would look bad. Ironically, it’s exactly what led to the last Russian emperor to be removed by the people.
It might even be intentional cultural and ethical cleansing, by disproportionally sending out the non-white non-“Russian” population to the meat grinder…
He does not care about the people, he cares about what those people might do to him. His legacy is now one of the worst leaders, like we are talking about in 50 years having a good chuckle reading about his massive failure that called itself an “empire”.
I have been saying for years that Putin’s intelligence is mediocre at best. People kept telling me he had The Big Brain (even those who hate him).
Compared to Trump he’s a genius, but that’s mostly because Trump could probably be diagnosed with a serious intellectual deficiency if any honest doctor got the chance to examine him.
In terms of real intelligence, Putin’s no mastermind, though. Americas problems can’t be blamed on Russian manipulation, since any manipulation on their part is inept at best. You got yourself into your current mess all by yourselves.
He embraced
neonazismliberalism, which the architect of Liberal Shock Therapy has said repeatedly is a mistake, so maybe he’s not unintelligent, but like the rest of the Good Guy Liberals©, is just doing Kabuki theatre until he, too, can get to his bunkers.The assessment of Putin is quite accurate. He could only do low intensity conflicts and he has a habit of starting something but is never able to finish. Even Georgia is an unfinished business.
He’s the J. J. Abrams of world leaders.
Soviet-style in what ways? Putin is very much a dictator that was placed there by the US
Well that’s a new one. Usually it’s blaming NATO from .ml, but the US installed putin as the leader of Russia? How, and to what end?
putin is literally a capitalist oligarch (like US leadership) who had good relation with west initially and had been setup there to deepen the roots of capitalism inside the then revolutionary russian society. He completely embodies liberal western world order and his capitalist greed of war and imperialism.
Holy shit this is amazing. Are you a renegade ML or did you all just decide framing it as a capitalism problem was easier than propagandizing NATO by saying they basically forced putin to invade?
this is common position of most MLs who are anti revisionist.
Interesting that you differentiate the US and the US in a trenchcoat as two entities. How? Shock doctrine and the cold war. The US tries to place someone more malliable to their benefit in power, and like the rest of them it always ends up biting them back.
While the US certainly does that broadly, Putin is not the beneficiary of such a ploy. That’s one of the few major bad things in global politics that the US did not do.
You’re telling me that Putin wasn’t a benefactor of the collapse of the Soviet Union?
He didn’t particularly benefit, his trajectory could have been just as productive under the Soviet government. It’s not like he was a total outsider. If anything it might have stalled his political career advancement a few years.
So the US set off an FSB coup that planted Putin in power did fhey?
What? Russia has advanced significantly into Ukraine despite the entirety of NATO backing the Ukrainian forces and forced violent conscription in Ukraine…
You trailed off there at the end, but so far everything you said is exaggerated to comical levels and completely unfounded.
I certainly wouldn’t say it’s comical. Ukraine have lost the major city of Donesk. https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375
I have seen evidence of violent conscription on both sides. This is a serious war. Russia are changing their entire economy to capture as much of Ukraine as possible.
No it’s not?
Here ya go, hot off the presses.
Shit’s horrific. But sure, Europe and the US are propping up this totally democratic state for the Ukrainian people.
No it isn’t. Putin didn’t violate the Minsk or any other agreement. Ukraine, USA, and NATO did.
He did. Repeatedly. And he still does.
The very idea that the nation who in mid invasion of the very nation the Minsk agreement is for is somehow not breaking the treaty that says no one will invade that very nation is wild and some real amazing dissociation.
Yeah. And it’s not even the only treaty they’ve broken. Like the Budapest Memorandum providing security assurances for Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, or the neat little agreement not to change borders in Europe with military force. And then there are all those countless broken ceasefire agreements in this current conflict…
Almost as if every nation around them have been stating no one can trust a russain word or treaty for a while now. Look at Poland who for many many years has been screaming at the top of Rysy mountain about russia being a threat and even now people out side of the former soviet bloc keep thinking this can be fixed by another agreement in writing. That a good talk and document will change the russian stance in the world.
The reason Ukraine does stop fighting and has little hope in a peace treaty is that a russian treaty is not even as worthwhile as toilet paper. This is in fact a very bad thing for russia on the world stage, no one trusts them at all. The only ones willing to work with them are using them and plan to squeeze them for everything they can (China, North Korea, India). This is how empires end, they are not strong enough to be the bully in the world and have zero credibility outside of being a contrarian talking point. The same thing is happening to israel and the states right now, who would want to sign a trump deal that he will rip up in a few months? Or a cease fire with netanyahu? Whats the point?
You’ve never been on the trail, my friend. Here’s a simple display of what Ukraine does to its own citizens
One of the guys on the car in the video (and others) were later arrested and filmed giving a forced excuse and announcing to join the military, sobbing and clearly frightened, mind you.
E: Lol, the cope votes. You:
Even though draft is morally questionable, one side is fighting for survival, the other is fighting to be pardoned from prison and then buy BMW to show off to their communities that don’t even have sewage.
Bro, wtf is this shit.
So the draft is morally questionable and you’ve seen the footage provided and now you find excuses in Washington, D.C.? Cope harder, buddy.
The article is written by a Russian about his home region in Russia. Would you rather if someone from fellow St Petersburg Institute have written the article, tovarisch?
Your “article” is originally (as stated and linked) from Radio Free Europe, a US financed, CIA founded anti-Soviet media outlet with the sole purpose to spread propaganda. So, for one, you’re spreading US propaganda.
Anyway, the topic was about the systematic, forceful obduction of Ukrainian citizens by their own government, only to imprison them, torture them and then throw them into the meat grinder. So, your whataboutism is using US propaganda to distract away from that, which is shady as fuck, “comrade”.
Predictably comrade, you are repeating the same old RFE this, RFE that. Straight from your handlers playbook that people have been hearing from years. Who cares? What is so bad about spreading democratic ideals? Is the colour revolution bad because it usurps Kremlin-aligned kleptocrats? Is this why Russia promotes regressive dark enlightenment ideas and being associated with Epstein.
Well done, you just figured out how draft works 👏👏. But predictably, you won’t mention about Russian authorities drafting students, street raids and coercing businesses to send youths. So, how is Russia better as you are implying? One side is fighting for survival, the other is forcefully recruited to suck their superior’s dick. Cry me a river. Oh and before you say anything, if Ukrainians are indeed tortured by their state, they would not be so motivated to cause Russia a net territorial loss this year and Putin just waivered bond auctions which could lead to the Russian state defaulting. You better leave your office in St Petersburg, tovarisch, before Russia collapses again in just less than a generation. You don’t want to live the 1990s again. The couple of cents you gained from few previous posts should let you buy a plane ticket out of there 🫡
It’s inexcusable, too, but pales in comparison of what the Russian side is quite literally doing, as in, invading a neighboring country, while doing the very same thing you highlight Ukraine does, but in larger degree. At least the Ukrainian side can be understood (though never accepted) as desperation from trying to defend yourself against a much larger invader. Russia still doesn’t have any excuses, they are the aggressor and the invader.
We can both-sides every little thing here, and agree that neither side is flawless, nobody in war ever is, but the main point stands: The one is pillaging and raping a sovereign country, the other is trying to defend against that.
Libs when presented with facts they don’t like are very similar to Conservatives.
They’re the same picture. “Good cop”/bad cop, a cop is a cop. And well, acab*.
Or Communists
Where’s the communist?
The “entirety of NATO” didn’t back the Ukrainian forces in the first 3 days. Your favourite “superpower” somehow failed to take the capital of a smaller state that was mostly fighting with the very same “superior” hardware Russia is using. It took several weeks, if not months, for western military support to actually arrive on the battlefield. All while those “unbeatable” Russian tanks either got stolen by Ukrainian farmers using tractors, or blown to bits by DIY anti tank explosives.
Yeah, in the opening days of the invasion, the western powers were primed to wag their fingers and write sternly worded letters at the presumptive conquest of Ukraine. They weren’t happy, but I think they were all too ready to just let it happen.
Only after Ukraine showed that it actually had some capability and will to successfully resist, then it became worthwhile for more substantial, though still indirect support from a lot of NATO nations.
You’re using a lot of quotation marks at me like they’re something I said.
The implications of your drivel are quite clear.
Not really. My favorite superpower is China, they haven’t dropped a bomb in 50 years.
I don’t think Russian hardware is superior, and I don’t think Russian tanks are unbeatable.
All in all, pretty shit comment that rides on a lot of wrong assumptions.
You don’t know what significant means.
What does significant mean than, facetious good sir?
Around 20 % of state territory is not significant? At which point are you willing to call it significant? Please provide us with your arbitrary cope reasoning.
No, I definitely do.