• reddig33@lemmy.world
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    If you think Trump will do a better job of saving the Palestinian people, you’re in for a rude awakening.

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      Almost everyone in North Gaza will be dead by New Years. That’s not on Trump, that’s on Biden. He can’t even be bothered to airdrop food any more, let alone tell Netanyahu in public to stop.

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        It’s not a fantasy. It’s anger and disdain for the stupidity of voting against their own interests and bringing others down with them, not wishing harm. I’ve said this in other posts, but I bet there is more than meets the eye with this situation that we aren’t privy to. The options were the VP of a guy that did provide some aid to Gaza and told Netanyahu he was going too far, which they feel isn’t enough, or a guy that is ok with them just wiping them out. The choice is a chance for Palestine to survive vs all but certain annihilation. Does anyone think Hamas would do anything different if the roles were reversed? I don’t have a solution, but Trump is going to give them more of what they have a grievance with.

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          None of that addressed what I said. You can’t just gloss over tens of thousands of deaths and say got for more of it and harass grieving families for not going with your plan. Why even bring up Hamas as an excuse, except to avoid addressing Biden’s role in mass starvation of civilians?

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            You can’t just gloss over tens of thousands of deaths and say got for more of it and harass grieving families for not going with your plan.

            Why even bring up Hamas as an excuse, except to avoid addressing Biden’s role in mass starvation of civilians?

            I’m not the one making excuses. I voted for Harris. Remember the travel bans early in Trump’s first presidency targeting Muslims? Remember his deportation rhetoric. I wouldn’t be surprised to find some folks deported to Gaza. I don’t wish this on them, but that is a possibility.

            The US isn’t attacking Gaza, Israel is. What is Biden’s role exactly? Providing over 1 billion in aid to Gaza?

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              Don’t insult my intelligence; the US provides nearly all the weapons Israel is using on Gaza. Unlike Ukraine they are receiving them with zero preconditions and Biden bypassed Congress twice to give them more weapons despite the documented war crimes. Blinken signed off on bombing aid convoys into Gaza and was caught lying to Congress about it. Biden himself scolded Russia and Iran by saying that anyone who gives weapons is equally guilty for the civilian deaths as the army that uses them on civilians. A billion dollar pledge is useless if none of the aid is allowed in and the aid convoys are bombed.

              Biden made a choice to block ceasefires and put his trust in Netanyahu who was a known liar.

              But this is all a digression; you’re STILL glossing over all of Biden’s failures with “but Trump!” The election is over, you can feel free to criticize Biden now for his screwups. It’s probably the best time to since everyone was saying that we had to shut up about our problems because it was helping Trump earlier.

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    Doubtful.

    Trump won Michigan with 2,804,647 votes. Harris had 2,724,029 votes. Stein got 44,697 votes.

    Most Arab Americans and Muslim-Americans said they would vote for Harris or Stein. We don’t have data yet on turnout for the community. And honestly, this failure is on Harris. Her campaign refused to allow Palestinian-Americans to endorse her at DNC despite Harris giving the microphone to Liz Cheney and others on stage. She didn’t meet with any Muslim community people in PA until the last week of the entire campaign. Biden detoured his campaign stops to skip Arab neighborhoods in Michigan completely and wouldn’t apologize for his anti-Palestinian remarks. Harris could have won those voters back by saying that she didn’t agree with Biden and that Palestinian lives are also just as important but she chose not to. Hillary Clinton thought that throwing Muslims under the bus would get a few republicans to flip to her and Harris thought the same.