• DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    28 days ago

    https://aaforagnostics.com/

    If you need help there are hundreds of agnostic and atheist AA meetings live and online.

    To paraphrase Robert Downey Jr. If you aren’t an alcoholic, religion is a choice. If you are an addict, you’ve already surrendered to a Higher Power. My addiction told me when to get up, who to talk to, where to go, how much to spend, who to hurt, and who to flatter.

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      28 days ago

      My partner utilized SMART Recovery when he was getting sober. It’s science based and completely free of religion

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      28 days ago

      If you are an addict, you’ve already surrendered to a Higher Power

      This is defeatist bullshit. And yes, before anyone says it, I know from personal experience.

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        28 days ago

        The higher power is the substance, be it booze, heroin, coke, meth or dopamine (for gamblers and others)

        Accepting that that chemical will always be there, always call to you, always be there to make you feel good when everything else isn’t working is the point

        Surrendering to the fact that it’s forever in your life, no matter what you do is the point, not surrendering control over your actions

        I know what I am. I know how the things that I do shape my life in every possible way

        It’s about how I manage it, not ignore it or pass the buck

        With kindness, I think you may have misinterpreted the comment you were replying to

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          27 days ago

          No, I understood it completely. It’s a mindset of learned helplessness and powerlessness.

          It’s the same fucking mindset that has people who accomplish terrifying and impossible things on their own accord, giving all of the credit to a non-existent god. No, buddy, you did this.