• ngn@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Ultimately, arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

    Edward Snowden

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    There’s worse.

    They already know everything about me anyways. If I can exchange my data for some free and easy to use service, I’m more than happy to give.

    I hate defeatism.

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      Its not even defeatism, its willingly sacrificing themselves to the machine in hopes it will be merciful!

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        True.

        And they’ll follow that up with a somewhat snarky comment that “You’ll be eliminated by the machines first.”

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          PHP: Facebook, Dream Market, Silk Road(darkweb)

          Ruby on Rails: Github, Airbnb

          Django: Bitbucket

          These technologies can compile into websites in themselves, but they are usually used as backend

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            Except that all of those produce HTML. They are all HTML websites.

            PHP stands for “PHP Hypertext Preprocessor” because it is a Preprocessor of HTML (HyperText Markup Language).

            If we are talking about browser performance, none of those technologies that you mentioned execute on the browser at all and are therefore irrelevant to Firefox’s performance compared to another browser.

            From a browser’s perspective, every website is HTML, CSS and JavaScript.

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    My co-workers were having the “Nothing to hide” discussion yesterday. I didn’t even feel like arguing.

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    my guess is its just another flavour of cope.

    imo likely because recent history has began to undermine the delusions which were propping up the former flavour.

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    The claim to have “nothing to hide” was not just born our of ignorance, but also out of comfort - to not having to do anything about it.

    Now that even the last one accepted that they do indeed have something to hide, but in order to justify their own inaction, it’s labeled as inevitable: privacy is not real.

    They are lying to themselves, because doing otherwise would mean they have to admit being wrong.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Hey you have nothing to hide? Please give me: Your address, bank account info, card numbers, social security, and the information of your family and friends. All passwords. Hand over your wallet too. Give me photos of your fingerprints, genitals, and a 360 view of your head. Why does it matter what I could do with such info? You have nothing to hide, right?

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    The mindset about privacy is just all wrong. It’s not an all or nothing game. Any privacy gain is a net positive to no privacy at all.

    To many people conflate privacy with anonymity or try “accomplish” privacy without understanding what they want to be private from and why.

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      Exactly. Now to click the “copy text” button and keep your fine words handy for my next convo with a friend who thinks life with Facebook and Google is grand.

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      Many people don’t even distinguish

      • Privacy
      • Anonymity
      • Security

      So you know… For example Signal is private but not anonymous as it is tied to you in some way (username, phone number). Security is just not exposing yourself when you haven’t allowed someone to have this information / access.

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    Do you remember when it was commonly advised to use fake names and birthdays on online forms, and when “spyware” was a term?

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    “My prehistoric brain can only think in ‘binary’ and doesn’t understand that development of a successful threat model doesn’t (and often can’t) be perfect, but any incremental change to my behavior and online practices in a way to prevent sensitive information from being shared and potentially utilized by malicious actors is a plus.

    Instead of thinking about all of that, I’m going to reduce the whole subject to a nice and neat logical fallacy of ‘online privacy is terrible nowadays, thus it doesn’t matter what I do’ “

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    When they realized they DO actually have something to hide, they moved the goalposts to now say nothing is private online anyway.