I don’t actually agree that your analogy applies, because it ignores my point.
Neither “side” (as if there were only a binary choice but that’s how they want you to think) wants you to have privacy. Be united with those who want to fight for those rights instead of divided on other policies which are political smokescreens.
Maybe a better analogy is that we are drowning in water that is not cold, maybe it’s tepid and maybe its boiling. But arguing over which is worse really doesn’t matter because we’ll be dead in a minute anyway.
Exactly. And “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists. We’re on the same side, if people could set aside differences and focus on similarities, that would be great.
ETA qualification. I am talking about Americans, sorry.
“Division” is good when one side is fucking Nazis who are literally Sieg Hiel saluting each other. You’re not supposed to get along with or cooperate with Nazis. Stop with this bullshit false equivalence. At this point it’s downright dangerous.
It’s going to be ugly, and I’m… Well not okay with it, but will do what needs doing. I’m saying there are plenty reachable who would work with us. Anyway, I didn’t pay attention to the server at the time. I have been seeing American leftists calling each other Nazis. Truth be told, capitalism is fascististic AF, and we didn’t guard the guardrails. But the magas who are reachable either aren’t saying things out loud, and I’m sure that’s plenty of them too. Others are reaching out and helping addicts, non-religious, other religious, other hued, LGBT. And maybe that’s just because I’m in a small farm rural area. There is one who’s openly an issue and one who says the right things but gives me the * heebies, for no logical reason. And the other hued who are disturbingly ye reminiscent.
“leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists
and then cited an example where we cooperated with communists (leftists) to defeat Nazis (right-wing fascists). Seems to me that we should always cooperate with leftists and never cooperate with Nazis. Again, what is your point?
My point is that being saying,
“leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists
You are watering down history and making a dangerous false equivalence. We are dealing with Nazis right now, and it seems to me that your point is that we should “settle our differences” and try to work with them. If that is your point of view (I’m hoping it’s not), that is really short-sighted. Nazi ideology does not involve compromise. It involves systematically killing anyone who does not look/think/act like you.
and then cited an example where we cooperated with communists (leftists)
I agree communists are leftists, and have been demonized by the West to support literal Nazis. My point was the ideological differences.
To your other points, when history has been seriously abridged and outright altered, in what institutions of education have been teaching since the original Red Scare (which never ended), most conservative voters a. Don’t t realize these are fascistic ideals, and b, a lot of them are genuinely horrified by how far this has gone.
We see the same problems, but assess causes and solutions differently. I literally spoke with s maga voter in the last six months who is probably really hurting right now, due to current and ongoing policy. I asked why our tax dollars don’t go to actual taxpayers. He thought about that a minute rightly assessed that it is because politicians and corporations are greedy and selfserving. The light was beginning to flicker. Unfortunately the conversation was interrupted, and he lives in a different state. We can make a difference, but the will had to exist.
Are you saying the US-Afghan war could’ve been successful? Or do you think it was successful, and somehow a result of working with ideological differences?
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Neither did he last administration and neither will the next. They want us polarized and fighting each other so we don’t fight them.
How the fuck are people still this clueless. Talk to anyone who is learned on US history and ask them if this is the same as previous administrations.
That’s like saying that neither tepid bath water nor boiling tea water are “cold.”
I don’t actually agree that your analogy applies, because it ignores my point.
Neither “side” (as if there were only a binary choice but that’s how they want you to think) wants you to have privacy. Be united with those who want to fight for those rights instead of divided on other policies which are political smokescreens.
Maybe a better analogy is that we are drowning in water that is not cold, maybe it’s tepid and maybe its boiling. But arguing over which is worse really doesn’t matter because we’ll be dead in a minute anyway.
My life would be much worse if I lived through a boiling water bath than if I managed to live through a room temperature bath, so very good analogy.
The eugenicists running the country have cooked it already so even if we survive it’s still horribly damaged forever.
Exactly. And “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists. We’re on the same side, if people could set aside differences and focus on similarities, that would be great.
ETA qualification. I am talking about Americans, sorry.
“Division” is good when one side is fucking Nazis who are literally Sieg Hiel saluting each other. You’re not supposed to get along with or cooperate with Nazis. Stop with this bullshit false equivalence. At this point it’s downright dangerous.
I am talking about citizens. What if we had this attitude about Russia during WW2 and Afghanistan? Please close your eyes and try to imagine that.
Nazis are citizens. Unfortunately.
It’s going to be ugly, and I’m… Well not okay with it, but will do what needs doing. I’m saying there are plenty reachable who would work with us. Anyway, I didn’t pay attention to the server at the time. I have been seeing American leftists calling each other Nazis. Truth be told, capitalism is fascististic AF, and we didn’t guard the guardrails. But the magas who are reachable either aren’t saying things out loud, and I’m sure that’s plenty of them too. Others are reaching out and helping addicts, non-religious, other religious, other hued, LGBT. And maybe that’s just because I’m in a small farm rural area. There is one who’s openly an issue and one who says the right things but gives me the * heebies, for no logical reason. And the other hued who are disturbingly ye reminiscent.
Nothing you’re saying makes sense actually. What are you talking about?
Historical facts. Both those wars would have gone very differently if not for working with people with whom we had ideological differences.
You said:
and then cited an example where we cooperated with communists (leftists) to defeat Nazis (right-wing fascists). Seems to me that we should always cooperate with leftists and never cooperate with Nazis. Again, what is your point?
My point is that being saying,
You are watering down history and making a dangerous false equivalence. We are dealing with Nazis right now, and it seems to me that your point is that we should “settle our differences” and try to work with them. If that is your point of view (I’m hoping it’s not), that is really short-sighted. Nazi ideology does not involve compromise. It involves systematically killing anyone who does not look/think/act like you.
I agree communists are leftists, and have been demonized by the West to support literal Nazis. My point was the ideological differences.
To your other points, when history has been seriously abridged and outright altered, in what institutions of education have been teaching since the original Red Scare (which never ended), most conservative voters a. Don’t t realize these are fascistic ideals, and b, a lot of them are genuinely horrified by how far this has gone.
We see the same problems, but assess causes and solutions differently. I literally spoke with s maga voter in the last six months who is probably really hurting right now, due to current and ongoing policy. I asked why our tax dollars don’t go to actual taxpayers. He thought about that a minute rightly assessed that it is because politicians and corporations are greedy and selfserving. The light was beginning to flicker. Unfortunately the conversation was interrupted, and he lives in a different state. We can make a difference, but the will had to exist.
Are you saying the US-Afghan war could’ve been successful? Or do you think it was successful, and somehow a result of working with ideological differences?
Cigarettes and meth are both bad for your health. One is much worse than the other though.
Well continue on doing what you’ve always done, surely you’ll get a different result this time.
lmao no government does