Lol yeah because taxes are the problem. It’s supposed to be more tax for rich less for poor. You have literally done a 360 reverse Robin Hood no scope self own with the taxes. Because they are the problem. They would change everything if a normal person would tax the demonic corporate entities and stop taxing and punishing your own veteran old people but nah, it’s only a problem when it affects billionaires
Just look at high tax countries, like Sweden, Finland, Norway. They are pretty functional, although not perfect, with pretty well-working social systems. Look at countries that are all about avoiding taxes like… the US. Look at the UK, and what Thatcherism did to it. Social services are falling apart, if still existing at all.
Whoever says taxes are a problem, implicitly says schools, streets, firefighters, … should be privately owned. And guess who would be the private owners and what they are going to do with prices :)
Taxes are also the problem in countries like the US and China wherein income tax only exists to remove currency from circulation. There’s plenty of other ways to do that in a digital world.
Lol, when I was in China, I never saw the taxes, so I’m assuming they just tax the corporations who pass down the costs by raising prices.
Like there is literally no “sales tax” in PRC, at least when I left around 2010. I also never heard my parents ever paying any “income tax”. So its probably all pre-deducted before you even get paid. When we first arrived in the US, my mom was so “frugal” that she whenever she see the “sales tax” she have like a mini existential crisis or something. 🤣
(This is in Guangzhou btw, just in case y’all are wondering)
Yeah having to do your taxes yourself is fucking archaic and stupid. They know how much you owe them. Either deduct that when people are paid (falls on the employer) or just tell people what they owe.
Well, again, the taxes are not the problem, but the bad design of the deduction process. The war on taxes, especially in the US but also in Europe, is a strategy from the right and neoliberals to cut down on social welfare and essentially redistribute money to the rich.
Taxes are good and important, but it’s difficult to figure out what to tax and by how much, and how to use the money well.
There’s certainly taxes, I paid income tax and they revised the rates at least once while I was living there. No sales tax that I noticed but that’s not the only tax.
What city? I mean, most payments are done in cash (at least it was pre-2010), so its not like the government would have a good way to track everyone’s income. I’ve never heard of anything about “filing taxes” like the US does.
If you are a foreign citizen working in China, that could be a reason why things were different
Apparantly, there is an exemption if you make under a certain amount per month, so my parents probably didn’t make enough to get taxes or they just under-reported (i mean, its all in cash so… 🤷♂️)
Yeah, but that’s not the argument you were making. You said there were no taxes.
Income tax is a tax even if you don’t pay it at certain levels. In the US if you make under something like 20k a year that is also effectively tax exempt due to low income. Doesn’t mean there are no taxes.
Taxes are not the problem. Billionaires grabbing the money on the other side are the problem.
Know the difference
The people most capable of carrying the tax burden are the people most likely to cheat their way out of paying taxes.
Lol yeah because taxes are the problem. It’s supposed to be more tax for rich less for poor. You have literally done a 360 reverse Robin Hood no scope self own with the taxes. Because they are the problem. They would change everything if a normal person would tax the demonic corporate entities and stop taxing and punishing your own veteran old people but nah, it’s only a problem when it affects billionaires
Just look at high tax countries, like Sweden, Finland, Norway. They are pretty functional, although not perfect, with pretty well-working social systems. Look at countries that are all about avoiding taxes like… the US. Look at the UK, and what Thatcherism did to it. Social services are falling apart, if still existing at all.
Whoever says taxes are a problem, implicitly says schools, streets, firefighters, … should be privately owned. And guess who would be the private owners and what they are going to do with prices :)
Exactly. There’s fact and there’s fiction. It’s to me no doubt that privatisation breeds enshittification
This is a strange combination of wrong and right.
Dont forget actively using the government against the people
Taxes are also the problem in countries like the US and China wherein income tax only exists to remove currency from circulation. There’s plenty of other ways to do that in a digital world.
Lol, when I was in China, I never saw the taxes, so I’m assuming they just tax the corporations who pass down the costs by raising prices.
Like there is literally no “sales tax” in PRC, at least when I left around 2010. I also never heard my parents ever paying any “income tax”. So its probably all pre-deducted before you even get paid. When we first arrived in the US, my mom was so “frugal” that she whenever she see the “sales tax” she have like a mini existential crisis or something. 🤣
(This is in Guangzhou btw, just in case y’all are wondering)
Yeah having to do your taxes yourself is fucking archaic and stupid. They know how much you owe them. Either deduct that when people are paid (falls on the employer) or just tell people what they owe.
Well, again, the taxes are not the problem, but the bad design of the deduction process. The war on taxes, especially in the US but also in Europe, is a strategy from the right and neoliberals to cut down on social welfare and essentially redistribute money to the rich.
Taxes are good and important, but it’s difficult to figure out what to tax and by how much, and how to use the money well.
So… You mean they are a problem
No, you can’t read a complex sentence
There’s certainly taxes, I paid income tax and they revised the rates at least once while I was living there. No sales tax that I noticed but that’s not the only tax.
What city? I mean, most payments are done in cash (at least it was pre-2010), so its not like the government would have a good way to track everyone’s income. I’ve never heard of anything about “filing taxes” like the US does.
If you are a foreign citizen working in China, that could be a reason why things were different
So I googled a bit and, although Wikipedia isn’t a source, its a non-political topic so it should be accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_China
Apparantly, there is an exemption if you make under a certain amount per month, so my parents probably didn’t make enough to get taxes or they just under-reported (i mean, its all in cash so… 🤷♂️)
Yeah, but that’s not the argument you were making. You said there were no taxes.
Income tax is a tax even if you don’t pay it at certain levels. In the US if you make under something like 20k a year that is also effectively tax exempt due to low income. Doesn’t mean there are no taxes.
I said I never saw them in any visible form. Of couse taxes exist, they exist in every society.
The rich would just use crypto