It’s all racism, all the way down, everywhere people are moving across our imaginary lines on the dirt.
Lots of people are deeply, childishly afraid of being surrounded by people who look and talk different, and that teeny, undeveloped personality flaw has had catastrophic consequences on our whole species, leading to some of the worst atrocities humans have ever committed.
And as the climate changes and weather becomes more extreme, crops will be harder to raise, clean water will be harder to find, and more and more people are going to move further towards milder climates and more developed nations out of desperation. I shudder to imagine how we’re going to treat these people broadly.
Calling it all racism is a thought-terminating cliche. Not all groups of humans have the same societal values, and that is not intrinsically tied to race. It is economic in origin. There certainly are racists like you describe, but they are most likely a vocal minority.
The wealthier a society becomes, the more picky it can afford to become. Personal autonomy can be selected for easier when hand to mouth subsistence isn’t taking up 100% of your time. Things like Abrahamic religious laws arise from subsistence societies. This doesn’t make cultural friction any less real or impactful.
Women’s rights and abolition of child marriage is the result of privilege, but that doesn’t mean they are bad things. When “most” people talk about integration, they are broadly talking about adoption of those values.
To your final point, sadly a mass reduction in habitable land will almost inevitably result in reciprocal population loss. Probably violently through wars of conquest for the remaining resources.
I didn’t use it to terminate thought though, I explained the source of the position and what it means. That was half the comment. We don’t have a better word for it, it comes down to races.
Not all groups of humans have the same societal values
Yah, lets bring them in and help them get out of harmful values like child marriage by making it a less desirable outcome by making sure their needs are met and there’s no excuse to keep practicing things that harm kids. (And of course, make it fucking illegal like we do with a lot of other things. Do you think it’s just brown people from “over there” who traffic children and other horrible acts? Is it only people with “different societal values” who dedicate entire islands to raping kids?)
But if you really think if borders fell tomorrow your neighbors are going to be selling child-brides, you’re also deluded by the completely societal construct that is borders broadly.
Everything you’re scared of foreigners about is a fear that’s been placed there BY the borders, not the other way around. The lines aren’t protecting you from them, the lines are protecting you from valuing the lives of others as much as your own.
No, it’s clearly not “brown people from over there”. What you are describing is assimilation into your culture. That requires that the people immigrating want to assimilate and join “you”. Also, a subset of sickos within “Western” culture being pedos is not the same as a society that believes child marriage is normal (or preferable).
Fundamentalist Christianity (any denomination or offshoot) is generally a “white people” culture and is also fundamentally incompatible with Western liberal society just as much as Islam is or Hindu caste is etc, so no, it is not just a “brown people” thing. White Christians don’t need to keep practicing things that harm kids, but it is part of their culture so they still do. And they influence or attempt to set the law to conform to their cultural beliefs. That is the concern with non-assimilation and mass immigration of any kind, anywhere.
Okay, frick off. I’ve had problems with immigrants in my country and each and every time my problem is not with them as a whole, but with the ones that do not want to integrate with local culture. If you come to another country - to the home of another culture - do not spit the host in the face, simple as. Learn the language, respect the local traditions (not “commit to local traditions” - but respect them), integrate with community. Not sure how it is in USA, but most outrage I hear in EU is basically small part of immigrants causing trouble and giving fuel to xenohpobes. Both should get kicked IMO.
I am aware I am minority and that most of the folk actually are simply xenohpobic, but I get kinda pissed when people spit out such dumb takes like “It’s all X!”.
It’s just curious to me we tolerate an unwillingness to “integrate” when it’s someone with the same skin color and accent broadly, but spewing hate and making problems for others and starting trouble, that’s just “expected in any large population” but as soon as someone is an asshole from another country, suddenly immigration is a huge problem we all need to address and we need to lock down borders and start marching armed death squads through the streets.
I’ve been around the world several times and spent a lot of time with immigrants of all colors and walks of life, and this may shock you, but everyone has their share of assholes. But if you’re looking for them and expecting them, you will find far more than if you learn to be fucking chill around people who are different from you. You might even learn something.
Curious, because you see, I am not looking out of them If anything I am one of the people who tell others to chill and point out they’re minority. The same thing I even said in my comment above.
And curious double time because right now we have a huge amount of same-colored folk with similiar sounding language coming to this country and, that may shock you, they also face xenophobia. They also fall victims to few bad apples being used to paint all of them as lazy, ungrateful jerks.
Please avoid weird assumptions that do not stem from what someone said.
You seem reactionary as fuck, I don’t think I’m going to waste my time today. Consider taking a walk, take in the cold, fresh air and enjoy being alive instead of seeking out things to hate people for.
In the UK and we talk about people smugglers like we don’t have a navy that could provide the transport ourselves
It’s all racism, all the way down, everywhere people are moving across our imaginary lines on the dirt.
Lots of people are deeply, childishly afraid of being surrounded by people who look and talk different, and that teeny, undeveloped personality flaw has had catastrophic consequences on our whole species, leading to some of the worst atrocities humans have ever committed.
And as the climate changes and weather becomes more extreme, crops will be harder to raise, clean water will be harder to find, and more and more people are going to move further towards milder climates and more developed nations out of desperation. I shudder to imagine how we’re going to treat these people broadly.
Calling it all racism is a thought-terminating cliche. Not all groups of humans have the same societal values, and that is not intrinsically tied to race. It is economic in origin. There certainly are racists like you describe, but they are most likely a vocal minority.
The wealthier a society becomes, the more picky it can afford to become. Personal autonomy can be selected for easier when hand to mouth subsistence isn’t taking up 100% of your time. Things like Abrahamic religious laws arise from subsistence societies. This doesn’t make cultural friction any less real or impactful.
Women’s rights and abolition of child marriage is the result of privilege, but that doesn’t mean they are bad things. When “most” people talk about integration, they are broadly talking about adoption of those values.
To your final point, sadly a mass reduction in habitable land will almost inevitably result in reciprocal population loss. Probably violently through wars of conquest for the remaining resources.
I didn’t use it to terminate thought though, I explained the source of the position and what it means. That was half the comment. We don’t have a better word for it, it comes down to races.
Yah, lets bring them in and help them get out of harmful values like child marriage by making it a less desirable outcome by making sure their needs are met and there’s no excuse to keep practicing things that harm kids. (And of course, make it fucking illegal like we do with a lot of other things. Do you think it’s just brown people from “over there” who traffic children and other horrible acts? Is it only people with “different societal values” who dedicate entire islands to raping kids?)
But if you really think if borders fell tomorrow your neighbors are going to be selling child-brides, you’re also deluded by the completely societal construct that is borders broadly.
Everything you’re scared of foreigners about is a fear that’s been placed there BY the borders, not the other way around. The lines aren’t protecting you from them, the lines are protecting you from valuing the lives of others as much as your own.
No, it’s clearly not “brown people from over there”. What you are describing is assimilation into your culture. That requires that the people immigrating want to assimilate and join “you”. Also, a subset of sickos within “Western” culture being pedos is not the same as a society that believes child marriage is normal (or preferable).
Fundamentalist Christianity (any denomination or offshoot) is generally a “white people” culture and is also fundamentally incompatible with Western liberal society just as much as Islam is or Hindu caste is etc, so no, it is not just a “brown people” thing. White Christians don’t need to keep practicing things that harm kids, but it is part of their culture so they still do. And they influence or attempt to set the law to conform to their cultural beliefs. That is the concern with non-assimilation and mass immigration of any kind, anywhere.
Okay, frick off. I’ve had problems with immigrants in my country and each and every time my problem is not with them as a whole, but with the ones that do not want to integrate with local culture. If you come to another country - to the home of another culture - do not spit the host in the face, simple as. Learn the language, respect the local traditions (not “commit to local traditions” - but respect them), integrate with community. Not sure how it is in USA, but most outrage I hear in EU is basically small part of immigrants causing trouble and giving fuel to xenohpobes. Both should get kicked IMO.
I am aware I am minority and that most of the folk actually are simply xenohpobic, but I get kinda pissed when people spit out such dumb takes like “It’s all X!”.
It’s just curious to me we tolerate an unwillingness to “integrate” when it’s someone with the same skin color and accent broadly, but spewing hate and making problems for others and starting trouble, that’s just “expected in any large population” but as soon as someone is an asshole from another country, suddenly immigration is a huge problem we all need to address and we need to lock down borders and start marching armed death squads through the streets.
I’ve been around the world several times and spent a lot of time with immigrants of all colors and walks of life, and this may shock you, but everyone has their share of assholes. But if you’re looking for them and expecting them, you will find far more than if you learn to be fucking chill around people who are different from you. You might even learn something.
Curious, because you see, I am not looking out of them If anything I am one of the people who tell others to chill and point out they’re minority. The same thing I even said in my comment above.
And curious double time because right now we have a huge amount of same-colored folk with similiar sounding language coming to this country and, that may shock you, they also face xenophobia. They also fall victims to few bad apples being used to paint all of them as lazy, ungrateful jerks.
Please avoid weird assumptions that do not stem from what someone said.
You seem reactionary as fuck, I don’t think I’m going to waste my time today. Consider taking a walk, take in the cold, fresh air and enjoy being alive instead of seeking out things to hate people for.
Have you read their Bio? It explains everything.
Ah, another angry gamer dude with xenophobia, they’re made in factories now.
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