Summary
Donald Trump’s 2024 election victory, influenced by support from podcasters like Joe Rogan, has sparked debate among Democrats about creating a left-leaning equivalent.
Rogan, whose show reaches 14.5 million listeners (80% male, largely independents or Republicans), endorsed Trump and hosted figures like JD Vance and Elon Musk.
Critics argue Democrats lack a comparable media ecosystem due to limited funding from megadonors, who oppose progressive policies.
Others suggest Democrats need to focus on appealing policies for independent-minded voters rather than trying to replicate Rogan’s media influence.
The shit on the right is all fed by the same poison shit. Their opinions are colored, and enforced by liars pushing an agenda. If the left is to be successful they will need a different tactic. Liberals, and progressives aren’t as fearful as conservatives. The reason the propaganda is so successful is largely due to the cowardice of republicans. It sounds like I’m just talking shit, but look at their talking points. Everything is based on fear. I would love to see a media operation as successful on the left, but it can’t use the same formula.
Honestly a “left Joe Rogan” isn’t going to pick up at all with the left because we aren’t into tribal bullshit. We don’t follow personalities over policies. If AOC said tomorrow “lol Mexicans” the left would shun her because she isn’t aligned anymore with core values of being a decent person. Nobody wants a Joe Rogan on the left because left leaning voters care about the idea of a functional government more than they care about how a figurehead feels about the government.
Whats really appealing about people like Bernie is that for 60 years he’s said the exact same things regardless of the personalities and political winds shifting. It’s the clear optimistic integrity that’s appealing, not Bernie himself. I want healthcare, I don’t give a shit who is giving it to me. Democrats need to have a handful of under 55s who simply want simple stuff and are LOUD and CONSTANT about it. It’s better to have a coordinated party than individual podcasters.
From what I’ve seen, and I’m in enough of a bubble to need to clarify that, they would do well to simply stop trying to court the right who will hate them for existing and instead go after the millions of left-wing voters who are right there. They refuse to, of course, which means they’re either stupid or prefer trying to do things the hard way over the easy and right way.
This isn’t a hot take, it’s all over everywhere, but yea.
Or they don’t consider the left wing to be potential allies, because the actual left wing doesn’t answer to the same interests as the Democratic Party.
It’s probably more that they don’t consider the left wing to be reliable voters. Right wingers are frequently single-issue voters, they’ll vote for someone who disagrees with them on everything except their one pet issue (abortion, guns, whatever). Left wingers are frequently every issue voters, they’ll abstain out of protest if a candidate agrees with them on everything except one thing.
That makes it much easier to gather right wing voters, all you have to do is have the right answer for a handful of issues, and you’ll gather supporters for each of those issues individually. To gather left wingers, you have to perfectly align with every one of them, which is straight up impossible.
Because they aren’t. Just like the youth vote isn’t.
That is an accurate assessment. Honestly, I’m disgusted most of the time. It’s difficult seeing people behave like assheads in pursuit of money, and favor.