It’s not an “internal critique” if you are going to misrepresent what Jesus said. He said he came to complete the law of Moses and that people shouldn’t follow the law blindly. His whole deal “love of god and love other people as yourself” and the rest of the law should be applied after that consideration.
If you want to do an internal critique start with what Jesus said was the most important thing “love god and love your neighbor as yourself.” From there you can say “If the rich loved the poor as they loved themselves they would give the poor everything they need. If the bourgeoisie loved their neighbors as themselves they would gladly give up control of the means of production to their neighbors of the working class. So to follow the teachings of Christ is to be a communist.”
Don’t get me wrong I’m not a christian. I think 80% of the bible is fabrication and exaggeration. I’m not eve convinced that Jesus even existed. But if you take the book at its word the teachings of Jesus aren’t anything bad.
Churches twist the message into hate and division and that sucks but it doesn’t mean the message “love each other” is bad or that it should be ignored. The working classes that are subject to that system are not the problem just like factory workers aren’t responsible for the factory owner’s wealth and power.
The goal of communists is to break the bourgeoisie control by reminding Christians of the primary commandment of Jesus not condemn them for being exploited by the bourgeoisie. Just as we don’t condemn workers for increasing the wealth of the Bourgeoisie we educate them so they know who really makes the wealth so they can unite against the exploiters.
There are lots of good Christians who could be good communists if atheist communists weren’t so dogmatic spiteful and dismissive.
There are lots of good Christians who could be good communists if atheist communists weren’t so dogmatic spiteful and dismissive.
Yup, if they do convert to communists, their stories will be similar to Gaspar García Laviana or other liberation theology christians that joined the guerrilla to topple fascist dictators throughout Latam. This writing helps clear how some made the jump to great communists.
“Somozaism is a sin, and freeing ourselves from oppression is freeing ourselves from sin.”
His poetry, letters, and reflections show that his decision to become a guerrilla fighter was not an act of desperation, but the logical consequence of his faith. As he wrote in Campesino 2 :
“I felt your poverty in my flesh…
I wanted to extinguish your poverty with legalistic justice;
when I couldn’t, I became a guerrilla fighter.”
If you want to do an internal critique start with what Jesus said
I guess you didn’t read the part where he said “I have not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it” and that “not one stroke or letter will be changed”. People always use the “greatest commandments” bullshit to act like he said ignore all the laws, those are done with, when he explicitly said the opposite. People don’t read the book.
Churches twist the message into hate and division
This is just straight up not true. The default position is one of division of believers and nonbelievers. The book preaches hate, and the churches gladly spread the message, because it’s from an “all-knowing, all-good god”. By default everything god does is good, so all the horrific shit is good.
There are lots of good Christians who could be good communists if atheist communists weren’t so dogmatic spiteful and dismissive.
Lol yeah it’s totally my fault that I actually read the book and came to the conclusion that christianity is vile and repulsive. There’s a reason why colonialism and christianity go hand in hand and it has nothing to do with atheism.
Why is it ok for communists to engage in capitalism in a capitalist world but its not ok for Jesus to discuss slavery in a world of slavery?
Communists are allowed to transition to a better world slowly but Christians have to have completely abolished slavery in 33BCE to be taken seriously?
I’m not even a christian but this is just idealist nonsense.
Christians can take the words of their central figure seriously, but I shouldn’t in a internal critique?
It’s not an “internal critique” if you are going to misrepresent what Jesus said. He said he came to complete the law of Moses and that people shouldn’t follow the law blindly. His whole deal “love of god and love other people as yourself” and the rest of the law should be applied after that consideration.
If you want to do an internal critique start with what Jesus said was the most important thing “love god and love your neighbor as yourself.” From there you can say “If the rich loved the poor as they loved themselves they would give the poor everything they need. If the bourgeoisie loved their neighbors as themselves they would gladly give up control of the means of production to their neighbors of the working class. So to follow the teachings of Christ is to be a communist.”
Don’t get me wrong I’m not a christian. I think 80% of the bible is fabrication and exaggeration. I’m not eve convinced that Jesus even existed. But if you take the book at its word the teachings of Jesus aren’t anything bad.
Churches twist the message into hate and division and that sucks but it doesn’t mean the message “love each other” is bad or that it should be ignored. The working classes that are subject to that system are not the problem just like factory workers aren’t responsible for the factory owner’s wealth and power.
The goal of communists is to break the bourgeoisie control by reminding Christians of the primary commandment of Jesus not condemn them for being exploited by the bourgeoisie. Just as we don’t condemn workers for increasing the wealth of the Bourgeoisie we educate them so they know who really makes the wealth so they can unite against the exploiters.
There are lots of good Christians who could be good communists if atheist communists weren’t so dogmatic spiteful and dismissive.
Yup, if they do convert to communists, their stories will be similar to Gaspar García Laviana or other liberation theology christians that joined the guerrilla to topple fascist dictators throughout Latam. This writing helps clear how some made the jump to great communists.
I guess you didn’t read the part where he said “I have not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it” and that “not one stroke or letter will be changed”. People always use the “greatest commandments” bullshit to act like he said ignore all the laws, those are done with, when he explicitly said the opposite. People don’t read the book.
This is just straight up not true. The default position is one of division of believers and nonbelievers. The book preaches hate, and the churches gladly spread the message, because it’s from an “all-knowing, all-good god”. By default everything god does is good, so all the horrific shit is good.
Lol yeah it’s totally my fault that I actually read the book and came to the conclusion that christianity is vile and repulsive. There’s a reason why colonialism and christianity go hand in hand and it has nothing to do with atheism.