@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml banned me from !ManufacturingConsent@lemmy.ml (permanently!) and removed my comment from the post, because I dared to note that there are protests in Iran and shared a link to a crimethinc article with voices from within Iran. They call it “imperialist propaganda” if leftist voices from within Iran are distributed.

My comment:

I get it that the western media narrative is incredibly one-sided, focused on ideological bogeymen and focused on getting the monarch back in power. But I’d like to point out that there is in fact quite massive repression going on against the protestors. Leftist orgs in Iran need international solidarity now.

Their “reasoning”:

reason: Ignoring the post to spam imperialist propaganda

I don’t think that person can be reasoned with if they call crimethinc imperialist propaganda, so I’m not getting my hopes up for them lifting the ban.

I also think that they might be a bit butthurt, because I called out their zionistic worldview (i.e.: that judaism equates zionism) a few days ago.

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    You maynever criticize an enemy government of the US

    The word “never” is the key point here. You may very well criticize the Iranian government and defend the progressives in the country, but I would bet 100€ that if we go 1 year back on any of your social media, you have never made this criticism before. Why now particularly, during the military buildup by the US before the imminent attack on Iran? Why specifically Iran too? Clue: it’s because the imperial propaganda apparatus has decided that discussing the repression in Iran right now is the agenda, as part of a larger atrocity propaganda campaign.

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      but I would bet 100€ that if we go 1 year back on any of your social media, you have never made this criticism before

      You’d lose that bet. as I said: that’s a bunch of assumptions you just *make about strangers on the internet.

      Why now particularly,

      Because there are protests in Iran right now. Read the fucking article, if you want to know “why now”. It wasn’t because I thought "hmm, the US could use another invasion right now.

      Clue: it’s because the imperial propaganda apparatus has decided that discussing the repression in Iran right now is the agenda, as part of a larger atrocity propaganda campaign.

      Yeah, it’s definetly not because of the protests in Iran. Those are completely not happening. /s

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        You linked a wikipedia article, did you write it yourself?

        Because there are protests in Iran right now

        And why exactly are those protests happening now, I wonder? Maybe because the US+EU imposed a sanction regime on Iran that has destroyed the national currency’s exchange value and massively impoverished the vast majority of the population? I’m sure that’s also coincidental and has nothing to do with attempts at regime change in the country. It’s not like the US has ever explicitly said that it applies economic sanctions to create hunger, desperation and overthrow of governments. Oh, wait…

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          You linked a wikipedia article, did you write it yourself?

          You said that now is the first time I’d be interested in iranian protests. The article describes a time when I showed solidarity for iranian protest movements before.

          Maybe because the US+EU imposed a sanction regime on Iran that has destroyed the national currency’s exchange value and massively impoverished the vast majority of the population?

          Yes. The article mentions (and condemns) this, as well. Read the fucking article, you troll.

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            The article describes a time when I showed solidarity

            I talked about your social media activity, not about you thinking something to yourself.

            Yes. The article mentions (and condemns) this, as well

            That’s irrelevant to my point. “Nuanced criticism” of the Iranian government the week before it’s invaded is bad strategy for socialists in the west, there’s already plenty of criticism in all media due to the anti-Iranian government atrocity propaganda. The entire thing circles down to you having good intentions by posting about progressives in Iran being repressed, but doing so during a period of extreme duress in the country which has been caused by the US+EU governments sanctions, and at a time when the country is about to be invaded by the US.

            Your intentions are noble and commendable, and I respect them, but you’re unintentionally carrying water for the US invasion by replicating atrocity propaganda at this particular moment.