Granted, the part

The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store

is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.

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          no. But if you mean independent access with various devices, neither signal is since you need always the phone to access the desktop version.

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            Thats why I personally prefer Matrix.

            However, the solution that Signal offers is the easiest for most people. Also it is not true that you always need the phone. The desktop version works fine alone unlike Whatsapp it doesn’t request you to connect the devices all 2 weeks. It does need a first installation on a Mobile or Android device in order to get the PC version running.

            The difficulty is when you need to exchange the encryption keys between different clients. This is where it gets complicated with Tox and Jabber/OTR. And to be honest the solution of Matrix is easier but also can get confusing for people who are just used to having a phone as their main device.

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              It does need a first installation on a Mobile or Android device in order to get the PC version running.

              I stand correct.

              And to be honest the solution of Matrix is easier

              What is the matrix solution for that? Keys will always have to be exchanged between devices

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                I stand correct.

                Yes, but fact is, that this is the easiest way for most users. And also most users don’t care if you can use it stand alone on a PC or not, and if it is linked to a phone number or not.

                What is the matrix solution for that? Keys will always have to be exchanged between devices

                You can use devices to cross-sign each other or use a passphrase.

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      Sadly Meshtastic is limited to the number of nodes it’ll go through (think it was 7) so pretty limited. MeshCore goes up to something like 64 so is better but still both have huge limitations right now besides the ‘no nodes around me’ issue.

      still, I have some MeshCore nodes and hopefully get 1 fairly high up when I can afford the £100 to buy it but its a lot to waste when no-one around here is interested.

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      IIRC, I looked into Meshtastic a while back, and it was known to be unreliable. Is that still the case? It seems like a really cool concept