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I don’t even know what else to add to this headline. This is so fucked up and tragic scary and infuriating and it will in no way slow the resistance.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3152·
    8 days ago

    Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to “get out of here.”“She was trying to turn around, and the ICE agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun and put it right in — like, his midriff was on her bumper — and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times,” Heller said.

    Heller said it appeared the woman accelerated, and traveled about 100 feet before striking a utility pole and some other vehicles, and could be seen slumped over inside her car.

    Horrifying

        • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          14·
          7 days ago

          “Every bad thing that ever happens in my utopian slave state is because of Russia. There is no way, that an american will ever do something against our most beautiful country without being a foreign asset.”

          • TronBronson@lemmy.world
            2·
            6 days ago

            Moscow Mitch McConnell… tulsi gabbard repeated Russian propaganda so much she got out in charge of handling it.

          • slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            7 days ago

            While I do agree that the US did this to themselves, it is still obvious that Russia fully supports useful idiots in every country around the globe, to split and weaken the countries. In the US, it was Trump, in Germany it’s the AfD. It is interesting to me that it’s almost exclusively Nazis that betray their own contries because they love their ssugar daddy Putin so much.

          • TronBronson@lemmy.world
            1·
            6 days ago

            Yea it’s not well documented and incredibly obvious at this point, going back 15+ years. There’s no paper trails to follow or video evidence or military analysis on the topic at all. Totally made up. Comrade

        • alekwithak@lemmy.world
          932·
          8 days ago

          Psh if you believe that just because they wrote it in a book and have been caught doing it multiple times then you’re just an unfortunate victim of western propaganda.

          /s if that wasn’t obvious

        • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.orgBanned
          74·
          8 days ago

          I don’t think I can blame Russia. It feels so American made. It feels like American culture. American culture was fucked before trump. It seems more like america fed running a coup to help put modern surveillance in place.

          …and the surveillance is basically already their but tasked by 3rd parties… And the government wants to officially put it in place… But the people wouldn’t allow it… So they resort to this.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            123·
            8 days ago

            am a passificst, so the regularity and casualness of people telling me I should nut up and kill a politician is very disturbing to me on many levels.

            I don’t think pacifists should be arming up and shooting anyone. I think people who cling to their guns and talk about fighting for freedom need to nut up or shut up (and I’m fine with the latter, just shut up already).

            I dont think further violence has ever really fixed this problem and I dont believe that’s going to magically change now.

            I think this is naive. Violence is an incredibly effective tool at degrading organizational capacity, destroying institutional memory, and quelling public opposition.

            When you’re dealing with ICE agents who can cavalierly execute civilians in public, I would love all three of those things to befall them, because I don’t want an organization with the capacity, the knowledge, and the public platform to execute my neighbors.

            But insurgent violence comes with enormous personal risks, it requires professional training, and it rarely produces tangible results in a single lifetime (especially the lifetime of a militant insurgent). So I’m certainly not going to ask people to stick their necks out.

            I just get tired of people posting TikToks in Camo Cosplay, pretending they’re part of some Last Line of Defense Against Tyranny. You’re bad liars. No serious person takes the 2nd amendment seriously as a political deterrent.

              • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
                51·
                8 days ago

                What I meant by that was that every time this sort of threat has been resolved by violence, it only sets the stage for future violence, because the true problem lies in the systems we use this violence to uphold.

                The systems are the people. And when you kick out a lynchpin - be it MLK or Charlie Kirk - that system can fail.

                The gun nuts do need to stfu about their hollow ideals though. I’d say we are in complete agreement on that note. If they were to actually ‘walk the walk’ however…I dread what that may usher in tbqh.

                We’ve got people being rammed in their cars and shot gangland style through the windows.

                Delta Force is snatching foreign presidents while the sitting president dismisses the need for next year’s local elections.

                You can only waggle your finger saying “It could get even worse” so many times.

          • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
            5·
            8 days ago

            Tbc, I dont know the most appropriate solution either

            I general strike would be a good first step. It would be very painful and risky given how many folks live paycheck to paycheck and how we have almost no social safety net, but it’s safer and more realistic than everyone trying to go full Rambo or Red Dawn.

            Remember at the start of COVID when we didn’t know how it spread and people were disinfecting their groceries and the feds and the bosses wanted everyone to keep working? It was only when the flight attendants threatened to strike and shut down air travel that they finally relented.

        • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          212·
          8 days ago

          Further proof the second amendment is not actually useful for preventing an oppressive government.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            132·
            8 days ago

            Just absurd to call it a “right” when nobody seriously believes the police will honor it. Less a civil liberty and more an excuse to ventilate your skull in a frenzied panic of gunfire.

        • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          8 days ago

          One side is trying to convince themselves that we’re not in a civil war and just an election away from getting everything back to normal. We’ve been in a cold civil war for at least a decade and it’s getting hot.

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
        3·
        8 days ago

        While I agree, I don’t see how she would have been better off if carrying. In the end, if we all have guns, more of us are going to die than them. That said… I am thinking that getting a weapon if you can afford it, and afford to store it securely is a good idea.

    • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      8 days ago

      They didn’t say “get out of here” they said “get out of the car. Get out of the fucking car”

      Either way, they murdered her and will get away with it.

        • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
          30·
          8 days ago

          I’m certain the driver was panicking and unable to process clearly. The DRIVER is not supposed to be the trained professional in this situation.

          I just like to ensure accuracy because the people who agree with the police will seize any error to show why we’re wrong and the media is biased and blah blah blah.

      • Saurok@lemmy.ml
        3·
        8 days ago

        It’s also possible that they said “get out of here” just before the video started and then subsequently yelled “get out of the car”. I never heard anything but get out of the car in the video that’s making the rounds, but it’s definitely possible the witness heard it before the video starts. And if that’s the case, then they would’ve been giving conflicting orders, which I’ve seen happen in numerous encounters with police before.