I had to deal with some guy at work trying to do some tiktok video and including me in it so I could complement his side gig or some shit (and likely only including me because women get views). And if I complain too much about being included in their grift everyone will shit on me for being a karen or for not helping him with it. Jesus fucking christ, I hate people that try to constantly plaster their face and name on everything to make money. Fuck youtubers, fuck tiktok, fuck ads, stop stealing peoples work for a quick buck ‘by doing commentary’, leave me the fuck alone

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    The problem isn’t TikTok or YouTube—it’s some guy at work who felt entitled to use you for his side hustle. If someone treats you like a prop instead of a person, you don’t owe them compliance, and you don’t owe bystanders an explanation either.

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      Yep. Nothing forces anyone to do anything, people do this crap willingly, and then blame everyone else for their poor behaviors.

      It’s called be a shitty human being.

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    Imagine if we get a robust universal unconditional social dividend atop a properly adequate “basic income”, accompanied by high quality free-to-use social services (including transport)… then we could:

    ikigai

    Do what we’re good at, what we love doing, and what needs done, fulfilling our passion and mission, not just our profession and vocation.

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        Yeah, though, don’t really need the smaller portions pointed out to get the main gist. Most versions of the Ikigai venn diagram don’t even include those.

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      So the people that work really hard fund those that don’t feel like working. Seems like a great deal. For some people

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        We have that problem NOW.

        Billionaires don’t work at all, they just siphon money away from us all, our labor, our hard work, our time, they get 99% of all that profit, we get crumbs.

        It’s a great deal, for them, the rest of us get just enough to not die or start rioting.

        Try again.

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          You will always have the rich & powerful and the poor. The problem is that the rich have lost all care for the poor. When you look throughout history the aristocracy was raised to rule and to steward great wealth. This meant funding art, cathedrals, public works, social services, charitable endeavors etc This raised the HDI for their surrounding community and nation. Certainly it wasn’t perfect but it was something, more than what we have now.

          While most billionaires are invisible to the public what’s very clear with the visible is that they are loosely ‘self-made’ in which maybe they were rich to begin with but not remotely close to how rich they are now. This comes with a “well I earned it so I’ll spend it” philosophy. Furthermore our culture has no shared sense of identity or morality anymore so the social contract is broken. Having shed all historical culture and tradition we’re increasingly atomized and alien to one another. As a result America and to a lesser extent “The West” is comprised no longer of nations but instead of balkanized economic zones. It’s late-stage capitalism for sure but I would argue more succintly that it is late-stage materialism. Nihilism will always be the result when you remove the soul from the social equation.

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            Work can mean a lot of things, in many ways Elon Musk could be said to work a lot. But it’s not comparable to what we mean when we normally talk of work. Musk has already amassed more wealth than he can meaningfully spend, regardless of how he uses his time. For all intents and purposes, all his time is free time. He chooses to spend it by laboriously being an asshole.

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            No it isn’t, that’s the economic reality. Do you think billionaires make that much because of some outrageously high salary or hourly wage? Because that ain’t it. They make their money by having money.

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              Having money AND taking it from all the people under them. Sorta like a pyramid. It’s sort of a scheme where the top guys get most of the profit while doing the least actual work. I wish we had a term for that. An upside down funnel, of sorts.

              Underregulated Capitalism like we have now is just a

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          It works fine for me and most people. You just need to be dedicated and have a skill that’s valuable. If you don’t have one then you need to get one.

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            What job are you doing that isn’t having most of the value you made taken from you?

            I’m a highly skilled person, I’ve been in corporate America for 2 decades and have a long list of skills and abilities and work hard.

            I’ve literally generated multiple millions of profit for companies I’ve been at. Did I ever see an extra penny? A bonus? A % raise? Anything beyond the normal bare-bones standard “cost of living raise” (which never ACTUALLY goes up as much as CoL does BTW) ? Nope. And that’s part of the issue we are talking about. I could be a STELLAR employee and generate the lion’s share of profit OR I could be a lazy unproductive idiot that costs the company money and you know what? Neither of those things changes pay for me. What does? How well liked I am, how much I brownnose, who I shake hands with, who I know, what shady deals I may do in secret, etc. But I have integrity and I refuse to lie, cheat, grift and schmooze my way up like most execs do.

            It is EXTREMELY common to work your ass off, earn some CEO and shareholders millions and billions, then they can lay you off or you die and no one cares. They milked every last drop of productivity from you and will happily discard you at any time.

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              Dude, if you’re making your company millions of dollars and they don’t recognize it then that’s your fault. You’re obviously not playing the game right in your company.

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                That’s exactly my point though. It’s arbitrary and has nothing to do with “hard work” or “ability” as you claimed.

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                  It certainly does but with your hard work you also need to make sure that you get recognized for it. And that’s up to you

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        It is a great deal. For everybody.

        Or would you prefer a billionaire’s monopoly collapsing the economy and everybody starved and enslaved in bullshit jobs?

        Sorry if that’s an accidental false dichotomy. What’s a middle-ground alternative you propose?

        UBI tests have shown people are enabled to do more, and do not just sit around because they “don’t feel like working”. Most work is already unpaid (and unrecognised as work). This simply remedies that.

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          I prefer taxing the Uber wealthy like we did before Reagan. If you’re in a bullshit job that’s your fault. Especially in this day of free knowledge and education. Learn a skill.

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            You’re literally retired and haven’t had to look for an entry level job in decades. You are talking so far out of your ass it’s crazy lmao.

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            Be careful when you let your phone automatically capitalize the word “uber.” You’re talking about Uber drivers when you capitalize that word.

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    While it‘s obvious that one income alone won‘t feed a family anymore, our culture pushed multiple-job-holding even further by normalizing several income streams and especially gig-work. A gym nearby now advertises „earn 1€ per workout“, which is effectively just a discount, but gives you the feeling of actual profit

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    Yeah kinda. But people value different things. I value time so work less hours at work and take an easy stress free job. I could earn double if not more working elsewhere but at what cost.

    If I’m housed, watered, and fed then the next thing I want is time. I love my job and still hate going to work and I work from home. I hate the idea of giving so much of myself away for Monopoly money.

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    Yes. And, I hate that everyone feels like they have to do this shit to pay for their lives. We cant just enjoy things anymore, it’s all monetized.

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      Nobody has to do it. They choose to do it, and then justify it will some bullshit excuse like they have no other option. They do have other options, they just choose not to exercise them. Often because they feel like social media, or MLM, or other shitty choices will be a shortcut to fame and riches.

  • If I understand properly I think this is called commodity fetishism and yeah it’s so gross. To repeat what everyone else here is saying I hate when I show people stuff I make out of love and the first reaction is “omg you have to sell these you could make so much money”.

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    List of ways in which this would be illegal under a sensible government:

    • affiliation with a banned for-profit privacy violation scheme known as “TikTok”
    • attempting to compromise someone’s privacy by persuasion to permit the placement of their likeness on the aforementioned “TikTok” in spite of the human right to privacy
    • participating in discriminatory sexism by attempting to encourage toxic forms of distinguishing between “women” and “men”
    • prioritizing personal financial gain over human rights
    • solicitory harassment
    • attempting to recieve ad revenue from illegal forms of advertisement
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    Tell him that anyone over 18 who posts anything on tiktok is a PDFile & you want nothing to do on that platform. Let’s see how your colleagues back him up then.

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    Nope. I want and love to make money. I look for every opportunity to. It not only makes my line better, but it allows me to give to charity, provide for my kids classrooms, give to others, and so on. You can’t help others if you can’t help yourself.

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    I don’t see why you should put your face in his video if he isn’t sharing the money. It sounds like he wants free labor to me.

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      i would normally tell him to fuck off but the chief leeches were there and wanted me to. whats worse is he has a somewhat large amount of followers and the chief leeches like him being there because of exposure.

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        Jesus what kind of hellscape of a job do you have where you’re being forced into viral marketing for something that is unrelated to your company?!

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            What the fuck? I was like dead certain that you were stuck with a bunch of high schoolers at a grocery store or something. That should never be happening anywhere remotely close to a cube farm.

            Best strategy is to play dumb. “Hello, [fuckface’s manager], I have some concerns about the tiktok content [fuckface] is making for the company and some questions about my job responsibilities in relation to it. [Fuckface] pretty regularly interrupts my work to request me to act in these videos and it is getting in the way of my usual duties. If my participation is required, could you please let me know in writing? I’ll also need to discuss with my manager about how this should be prioritized and scheduled alongside my other job duties.”

            Force their awareness in a way that doesn’t immediately look like an assassination. The more you can get in writing the more rope this guy makes to hang himself with. If somehow they claim it’s actually work related, keep pushing the edges of “I just want to be sure” until his channel is company property or he shoots himself in the foot.

            Alternatively, get paid to intentionally do bad acting. “Oh, I’ve never been good on camera, sorry!”

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            “You know what my side hustle ad needs? A GIRL”

            “Hey, I think a girl works for me. Let’s just use her.”

            “Great thanks bro!”

            Shit like this makes me want to become a terrorist. I wont, but I’m starting to get why other people do.

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        At a random time, when nothing is happening, hand him a “paid talent release form”.

        If you look up “talent release form” it’s what allows a creator to use materials with another person. As it stands now, he asked you to participate but did not have you sign a release (with no fee), so you own partial rights to income from that video.

        Say to him: “Since you are a pretty big creator I assume you’re familiar with releases. I grabbed a standard one to give you rights to my previously included videos, and here’s another for any future videos including me for a 50% share. I’ll sign them after you approve and sign unless you have a standard set you would like to use”

        This makes it a business transaction, vs a “leave me alone”. He won’t want to figure out how to pay you, so he’ll probably stop.

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    My sister is so into this mindset but doesn’t do anything about it, it’s so annoying.

    Every conversation with her ends up being about how to monetize something. Fucking A, I’m not gonna start a food blog and sell ads, I just wanna make dumplings!! I’m not gonna stream my boyfriend and I playing games, we’re just trying to relax! I’m not a brand or a product I’m just a person, get off it.

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      I hate that so much. “Oh, this hobby only brings you joy and happiness? Don’t you know you could make money out of it?”

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      I’m that neighbor thats really, really into Halloween. My whole family is. We do a pretty big yard thing every year and this year we had the scene change every week to tell a bigger story. On Halloween handing out candy and goodies, everyone was stoked and wanted to stop and say how rad it was and how much fun it was to watch over the course of the month. Except one person. She just kept on going about how I should charge people to see it. Dude, first and foremost, I’m not going to make one of the few things I find true joy in doing another goddamned chore. Also, how the fuck would I keep people from just looking at my front yard? How do you expect me to manage that?

      One good thing came of it though, after her insistence again and again I told her the only practical way to charge admition would be to do an actual walk through haunted house in my back yard. So the neighbors and fam and I are going to do just that. But for free because fuck that. I might charge her a dollar though because I’m super petty.

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      My one friend is the same. He laments how little ambition I have for being so creative.

      I create beautiful things for fun and for people I care about. Any time I’ve done it got money, it has slowly but surely sucked the soul from it. No thanks. I’ll be happy with my creativity over here without a ton of money.

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      Sorry if this is too personal, but does she have, or has she had in the past, membership in a communist party a hobby which she did as only an amateur? It’s hard for me to take the perspective of someone who doesn’t seem to understand how monetizing a passion can completely ruin it.

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      the thing that gets me is these people don’t realize there’s a much easier way to make $ not working…just play the stock market, that’s what all the big rich fucks who don’t do any real work do. it’s one big casino that most people buy into passively, especially in bubbles like this…it’s incredibly easy to make shitloads of $. it’s so easy that you quickly lose any interest in “grinding”.

      it’s certainly not fulfilling though…gambling is no way to make a living.

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    It does suck. Watching all my highschool friends slowly lose the light in their eyes as the economy tightened its grip, becoming all more desperate just for basic necessities. The only way any of us can fix this is by making sure no one is run ragged by the fear of this fake ass scarcity.

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      The only way any of us can fix this is by making sure no one is run ragged by the fear of this fake ass scarcity.

      By getting rid of capitalism, right? Right?

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      At least you have empathy. My family deride me for struggling with affording housing my whole adult life. At least I dont have to see them more then a couple times a year. Love those douchebags.

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        It’s not you, I can tell you that. I won’t lie I feel that empathy because I was simply exposed to the horrors of capitalism before they were, my father losing his job, my family losing their house and having to work in a factory as a child. I can’t blame them for the conditions we’re all in.