What would justice look like? I’m genuinely curious. There isn’t a court outside of America that can hold the president accountable, and the other option is war, which would be deadly on a massive scale. It’s insane that impeachment hasn’t happened yet, and unless the legislative branch does something to remove the cancer from the White House, then I don’t see justice being delivered.
There isn’t a court outside of America that can hold the president accountable
Sure there is.
Literally any country that has had one of its citizens involved in Epstein’s sex trafficking can issue a warrant for Trump’s arrest and prosecution as an accomplice / co-conspirator.
Why the fuck not?
If we can kidnap a President of another country, and try them, for domestic crimes… so can anyone else!
That’s the precedent Trump just set.
Why respect really any international laws or norms, when it comes to the US?
Maybe I’m being a bit pessimistic here, but I somehow don’t see Cuba launching a massive air-sea operation to capture Trump in Mar-a-Lago while he’s busy jerking off to kiddie porn with his tiny little hands.
Even some liberals are starting to see the obvious here… courts of law doesn’t matter.
Justice won’t be served, but cheer up. You can also argue this is just business as usual. For example, this is not the first foreign leader the US has kidnapped. There have been a few. Fun fact: Noriega* was also kidnapped on the third of January. And hey, if Maduro is convicted for drug trafficking, maybe Trump can pardon him like he did the former drug trafficking president of Honduras.
Sure, Hegseth is an alcoholic nazi. But unlike Colin Powell, he didn’t start his career in politics by whitewashing the My Lai massacre, and hasn’t contributed to the death of up to 1.2 million people (yet).
And if the government of Venezuela doesn’t decide to spontaneously cave and Trump does decide to send the troops in, I’m sure this particular Special Military Operation will be over in three days.
*Bit of a tangent, have you read the wikipedia article on Noriega? It’s a real eye-opener. For example:
… The district court held that information about the operations in which Noriega had played a part supposedly in return for payment from the U.S. was not relevant to his defense. It ruled that “the tendency of such evidence to confuse the issues before the jury substantially outweighed any probative value it might have had.” … Information about Noriega’s connections to the CIA, including his alleged contact with Bush, were kept out of the trial.
They convicted him of drug trafficking, but failed to mention to the jury that he’d also been doing it for the US government and the CIA.
TLDR: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
Never mind the fact that the only reason the CIA’s boy - Noriega - came to power in Panama was thanks to the assassination of Omar Torrijos… almost certainly at the hands of the CIA.
If the emancipatory tech1 gets leaked and proliferated, it may easily obsolete the paradigm of resource wars, jingoism and genocide.
1 Right to the spaceships that can print another of themselves instantly, safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home in, zero-point energy powered and with zero-inertia propulsion, and all the other clean energy, and construction tech sufficient to build giant forest arcologies and connect them up.
What would justice look like? I’m genuinely curious. There isn’t a court outside of America that can hold the president accountable, and the other option is war, which would be deadly on a massive scale. It’s insane that impeachment hasn’t happened yet, and unless the legislative branch does something to remove the cancer from the White House, then I don’t see justice being delivered.
This whole situation is a nightmare.
Sure there is.
Literally any country that has had one of its citizens involved in Epstein’s sex trafficking can issue a warrant for Trump’s arrest and prosecution as an accomplice / co-conspirator.
Why the fuck not?
If we can kidnap a President of another country, and try them, for domestic crimes… so can anyone else!
That’s the precedent Trump just set.
Why respect really any international laws or norms, when it comes to the US?
We don’t!
Maybe I’m being a bit pessimistic here, but I somehow don’t see Cuba launching a massive air-sea operation to capture Trump in Mar-a-Lago while he’s busy jerking off to kiddie porn with his tiny little hands.
Even some liberals are starting to see the obvious here… courts of law doesn’t matter.
Because they have big guns and they’re not afraid to use them.
So do a lot of other people, now we’re back to a bunch of Hobbes’ Leviathans, vying for power like brutes, in the lawless ‘state of nature’.
States will now increasingly just do whatever they can get away with, and still save any face that they care to save.
Jesus, we just had to arrest all the world dictators? Well Jesus, nobody said it was so easy! Gosh we could have got Putin AGES ago!
Ah but why didn’t we?
Oh, thats right.
Because laws and norms are a formality, a kind of etiquette, a masquerade, nothing more, really.
Power does whatever the fuck it wants to, justifies it however it wants to.
If it doesn’t do something… it’s because it doesn’t want to.
Unfortunately, this is America and it always has been. This isn’t a cancer, it’s the system functioning as intended and as it always has.
Justice won’t be served, but cheer up. You can also argue this is just business as usual. For example, this is not the first foreign leader the US has kidnapped. There have been a few. Fun fact: Noriega* was also kidnapped on the third of January. And hey, if Maduro is convicted for drug trafficking, maybe Trump can pardon him like he did the former drug trafficking president of Honduras.
Sure, Hegseth is an alcoholic nazi. But unlike Colin Powell, he didn’t start his career in politics by whitewashing the My Lai massacre, and hasn’t contributed to the death of up to 1.2 million people (yet).
And if the government of Venezuela doesn’t decide to spontaneously cave and Trump does decide to send the troops in, I’m sure this particular Special Military Operation will be over in three days.
*Bit of a tangent, have you read the wikipedia article on Noriega? It’s a real eye-opener. For example:
They convicted him of drug trafficking, but failed to mention to the jury that he’d also been doing it for the US government and the CIA.
TLDR: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
Never mind the fact that the only reason the CIA’s boy - Noriega - came to power in Panama was thanks to the assassination of Omar Torrijos… almost certainly at the hands of the CIA.
His son Martín Torrijos was also president for a bit. Elected, not a dictator.
The Trump administration revoked his visa a few months ago. Basically a warning not to criticise the US government.
So I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s one of the next interventions. Venezuela, Cuba, Columbia, Mexico, Panama, …
On the bright side as a European, perhaps this will keep Trump distracted for a few years, before he starts bombing Greenland and Denmark.
Otherwise yeah…
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If the emancipatory tech1 gets leaked and proliferated, it may easily obsolete the paradigm of resource wars, jingoism and genocide.
1 Right to the spaceships that can print another of themselves instantly, safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home in, zero-point energy powered and with zero-inertia propulsion, and all the other clean energy, and construction tech sufficient to build giant forest arcologies and connect them up.